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Old 12-17-2010, 01:51 PM
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This auction has 2 different kinds of doctored reprint cards..The Ruth is one kind and all the others is a different kind.

The Ruth is one of the kind that originally had the words "reprint" or "Renata Galasso Reprint" between the words "GOUDEY GUM CO" and "BOSTON" (see erased spot). This type of reprint the back green is too light and too bright. The photo area has also been cropped like on most types of reprints.

The other kind of reprint are slightly better looking but if you look at the print on back it is too bold and many of the letters with small holes ie "a" "b" "d" "e" etc. will have the holes filled in. The front has the normal cropped edges of the photo area (ie the Lefty Grove, the parentheses of his name shouldnt touch the top border).

For collectors who have handled these authentic cards for many years it takes only a second to tell its a fake (I can often tell just by the small thumbnail pic), the colors are off (dark areas are too dark compared to light areas), the paper stock is off, the wear is off, etc.

If your new to these cards, its easy to Google images of authentic cards to compare.

Most common PreWar reprints....
E145-2 Cracker Jack
R319 Goudey (many different kinds)
T206 (many different kinds)
E90-1 (stars)
E95
T205
M101-4/5
R333 DeLong
T200
WG2, WG3, WG5 game cards
W560
W551
W512
D304
Geo Ruth Candy (cards and wrappers)
Fro-Joy Ruth
etc.
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Old 12-17-2010, 01:58 PM
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Here is a pic of the Ruth that Gary referenced. Obviously, the one on the right is a reprint. Colors are faded and you can see it has been cropped (look at Ruth's fingers). As with the other reprinted Goudey's the borders on the fake one are squared all the way around.

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Old 12-17-2010, 06:52 PM
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At the Sun-Times show in November, a guy tried to sell me a '33 Goudey Hornsby. While the corners and edges had some wear, I felt the color was too vivid and took a pass. I appreciate the info! Thanks!!
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:46 AM
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Iggy and Frank, thanks for the info. I normally do compare the raw in question with a
graded card, but I'm definitely not as good as seeing the details as others. I noticed
the bordering and centering, and look at the coloring too, but I definitely did not
see that Ruth's pinky was cropped in the picture. Thanks again!
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:15 AM
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Thank you all for the great posts. The detailed information on what to look for in fakes is priceless (or at least $100's in the case of some auctions).
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:18 AM
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These Ruth's etc are dangerous to try and deal in!
As a new collector I am sticking to mid-grade commons for now until all the fraud blows over
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:16 AM
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These Ruth's etc are dangerous to try and deal in!
As a new collector I am sticking to mid-grade commons for now until all the fraud blows over
Wp
On Ruth, Gehrig, Joe D, The Mick, and other expensive Yankees, i try to buy all graded by one of the major companies for authenticity, then i remove most of them from their slab and put them in my albums.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:27 AM
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I'm curious to know the best way to remove a slab.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:32 AM
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I'm curious to know the best way to remove a slab.

Thanks for the info.
What i do is take a large sharp cutter and cut a corner off the slab, then stick in a thin screwdriver and carefully work my way around the slab until it can be popped open. While there certainly is a chance of damaging a card doing this, so far i have opened a bunch without damage yet.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:34 AM
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What i do is take a large sharp cutter and cut a corner off the slab, then stick in a thin screwdriver and carefully work my way around the slab until it can be popped open. While there certainly is a chance of damaging a card doing this, so far i have opened a bunch without damage yet.

It is worth the risk.
Nothing more noble in the hobby than releasing a card from the dreaded suspended slab prison. Keep up the good work!
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