Genuine or Fake E90-1 Joe Jackson?

[glchen]

Sorry, another Joe Jackson on ebay. Is this one real or fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-E90-1-Ameri...item4155530f51

[Ladder7]

Any prewar, raw card auction that begins with WOW and ends with "No Returns", is always a scam. Don't even bother examining the scan.

[barrysloate]

I agree Steve. When I see the word WOW I move on.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by glchen

Sorry, another Joe Jackson on ebay. Is this one real or fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-E90-1-Ameri...item4155530f51

i'm not trying to be mean but the examples you bring up aren't even close to looking like originals...it's like you're not taking anything useful away from these discussions. if that's the case you shouldn't be searching for raw e90-1 jacksons...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

i'm not trying to be mean but the examples you bring up aren't even close to looking like originals...it's like you're not taking anything useful away from these discussions. if that's the case you shouldn't be searching for raw e90-1 jacksons...

Very good point, Quan. It's ok not to know about something but if you don't want to get scammed, and don't know, you should stick to a card that is slabbed by a reputable company. They will stand behind the card at least being authentic (about 99.99% of the times). I have seen mistakes with authenticity but they are very uncommon. regards

[fkw]

The E90-1 Jackson on eBay right now is an obvious fake and easy to tell, the back has damage right where the "20" was scuffed off, the left and right borders combined are too wide, same with the top and bottom. The elbow is too close to the border, the background is too blotchy and dark, should be a fairly even purple color, the bat is way too dark, the "k" should be right below the bat.... the whole caption is misaligned, should be offcenter to the left slightly, not centered. etc.

[glchen]

Thanks, Frank. Appreciate that!

[hunterdutchess]

Just look at this DI*K HEAD'S feed back as a buyer:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...eedbackAsBuyer

Now look at all the cards he is selling as originals:

http://shop.ebay.com/goroos/m.html?_..._from=&_ipg=50

Everyone REPORT, REPORT, REPORT!!

[glchen]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

i'm not trying to be mean but the examples you bring up aren't even close to looking like originals...it's like you're not taking anything useful away from these discussions. if that's the case you shouldn't be searching for raw e90-1 jacksons...

I guess I was just hoping to learn something on how you determine the card is fake by just looking at the scans and not the rest of the ebay ad. For example, Anthony had a very good post earlier in this thread where he pointed out if the #20 were on the back, that showed that the card was originally a reprint. Therefore, I was able to determine that this Ty Cobb was a reprint:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1909-11-...pt=US_Baseball

If you don't want to help, I'd appreciate if you refrain from these snide remarks.