e103 info

[esd10]

Ive read old cardboard and they tell you very little. Are they as rare as the e107? Can anyone tell me what to look for when buying one? Are the litho's like all the other candy cards for that era?Any other info from this type collector would be usefull.

[barrysloate]

E107 commons tend to sell for more than E103 commons, so I guess they are considered scarcer, but not by much. I've handled quite a few of both and would rate them pretty close in terms of scarcity (others may feel the E107's are much tougher).

[sportscardpete]

Personally from what I have seen e107's are much more rarer than e103's, and that could be up for serious discussion... But both are rarer than most caramel issues. I personally like the look of e107's, as the black and white color scheme really make the card seem like an old issue. If i were to look at an e103 I wouldn't really care about the back. I would look for a relatively crease free front, as creases seem prominent in this set.

[barrysloate]

I'm trying to think back over the years how frequently each have appeared for sale, and while E107 is tougher, I still think I've seen roughly the same number of each. Part of that may be because E107 is a set of 145 or so, and E103 is a set of only 30. Again, I'll say E107 is tougher, but not by a huge margin. Now of course, if you are talking about completing a set, E107 is way way tougher. But if you simply want to buy a common as a type card, they may be closer than is generally assumed.

[Bicem]

For what it's worth, doing a quick search on ebay, I saw 29 e103's and 1 e107.

[barrysloate]

Well, that's a huge difference for sure. However, E107 is not 29 times tougher. It may just be an anomaly. But fine, I'll concede that e107 is tougher. I just don't think E103 are all that easy.

[sportscardpete]

I wouldn't mind having either one

The ebay 27:1 ratio could just mean no one wants to sell their e107 's..

[esd10]

what where the e103's packaged in? i know caramels but was it a tin or a wax wrapper or someting else. what do you look for in a real e103? is it a litho or something else? i have never seen one in person.

[E93]

My gut instinct is that E103s are not as tough as E107s, but they are still one of the tougher E sets (E90-E107). To take a rough stab at numbers, I would guess there are less than ten of any given E107 and probably 25-30 of any given E103, though as Barry mentioned there are a couple that a very tough.

Ebay can be a rough indicator, but not perfect. E107s usually go to auction houses rather than Ebay, so it can be misleading. Conversely, also as mentioned by Barry, because the size of the E107 set is roughly five times as big as the E103, that can distort that actual rarity of any single card for those not paying attention to specifics.

On a side note, I was discussing these sets with Brian Terjung who is quite knowledgeable on these two sets and he suggested that they might be much more closely related than many have noticed. Hopefully he will chime in here with specifics. I believe he did some research linking Williams Caramel with Breisch-Williams.

JimB