SOT Holy Crap the Phillies Got Cliff Lee- Best Starting 4 Pitchers Ever??

[ChiefBenderForever]

So because the Yankees wanted Cliff Lee he is the greatest pitcher ever ? Seriously, he has to be the most overated hyped up pitcher ever, he is not even close to an upper level pitcher. The Phillies got an ok pitcher, the Red Sox got a couple hitters, this makes them a lock for the world series ? I still say Red Sox will not make the playoffs even though I really like them and the Phillies will not make it to the big show either.

[boneheadandrube]

"I'll take the Cardinal big 3 for next year over the Phillie 3.

Wainright, Carpenter, and Garcia all are as good as Oswalt, Lee, and Oswalt."


Are you just a casual baseball fan or something? Offering opinions like this on a public forum basically renders any future opinion you have invalid...
GB

[David W]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

"I'll take the Cardinal big 3 for next year over the Phillie 3.

Wainright, Carpenter, and Garcia all are as good as Oswalt, Lee, and Oswalt."


Are you just a casual baseball fan or something? Offering opinions like this on a public forum basically renders any future opinion you have invalid...
GB

LOL. You haven't seen what Wainright and Carpenter have done the last 2 years have you?

We'll see how those 2 and Garcia do this year.

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by David W

LOL. You haven't seen what Wainright and Carpenter have done the last 2 years have you?

We'll see how those 2 and Garcia do this year.

Yes, I have seen what they have done...enjoy the regular season for 2011.

[Robextend]

I compared the Phillies top 3 to the Giants and Cards top 3 stat-wise for the 2010 season. I know Lee was in Seattle for a bit and Oswalt in Houston, but the numbers are pretty close with an edge to the Phils. And of course you would take Hamels over Bumgarner or anyone the Cards have as your #4, but Bummy looks like he has a nice career ahead of him.

Phillies Big 3: ERA 2.78 WHIP 1.03 BB 103 K 597
Giants Big 3: ERA 3.22 WHIP 1.19 BB 233 K 613
Cards Big 3: ERA 2.79 WHIP 1.17 BB 183 K 524

Of course there are many other factors besides raw stats to take into account, but to me the Phillies have a clear edge although the Giants and Cards are right up there too.