Unusual PSA flip

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Bosox Blair

It doesn't say T206 on it - at all. Why does it say 1911?

That is why I started this thread. I had thought I had seen all the various T206 PSA flips; I was wrong. Thanks Jon.

[fkw]

PSA has issues,
Why in heck would they put "Cleveland" on the flip, yet not put "T206"????
They also put 1911 on a card only issued in 1909 (150 series back)... Kooks doing kooky stuff IMO Idiots!

An artist must have added the "P" on the back from what I can see, so this card has edge corner damage, scrapbook damage, and ink added...

worth $74, if that. IMO

[Matthew H]

This auction may not gain much interest due to the fact that there is a reserve on the item; however, I still think it's worth at least $100. I'd buy it for that right now. (I'm sure they want more than that though)

[cfc1909]

Frank

very true the card is only worth 50 to 75 bucks but if let go at a traditional auction more than likely it hits 200. I didn't realize the back was so bad but a grade 1 Young portrait will hit 200 give or take and depending on what back it has.

[asoriano]

Now this is an unusual PSA slip (although a legit holder):

http://cgi.ebay.com/1908-09-Cy-Young...item45f752b5cb

[ethicsprof]

frank has convinced me to go down from my(and Jon's) 75 figure to 74.
i will stand corrected by frank ward's expertise 'til the day I collapse.
those who have moved toward higher figures also have my esteemed reverence but not my vote on
this particular occasion!


best,
barry

[shaunsteig]

Originally Posted by asoriano

Now this is an unusual PSA slip:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1908-09-Cy-Young...item45f752b5cb

that's awesome.

as for the PSA flip, some have argued that this is an old but legitimate flip. Now I know that PSA previously did not specify the backs on the T206 flips. And the typeset of their oldest flips looked different than currently. I'm not really aware of any other evolutionary changes to the PSA flips. In this specific case, does anyone have a T206, or any other card, where the PSA flip doesn't specify the set name? For that reason alone, I'd be leery that this is a fake.

[canjond]

I still feel that if this was a fake flip, there would be one of two things... a very high dollar card in the holder, or a card that is really over-graded. In the case at hand, neither applies.

[Bosox Blair]

See post above.

[FrankWakefield]

This shouldn't be that complicated. Can't someone who has PSA membership, or whatever it is a fellow has to deal with them, can't he email in the scan and they can look at the slip and number on it, and tell what the deal is??

[CW]

It appears to be a legit flip. I have definitely seen the # sign on the
right side of graded T206's in the past. It seems to be a clerical error
of some sort.

Just did a google image search and found at least one other card with
the odd "#" on the right. A PSA 9 Waddell portrait that recently sold
at auction....

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...igher%E2%80%9D

[asoriano]

Everything is legit in regards to the Young posted above (including the flip).


Here is an example of a bogus PSA holder:

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by asoriano

Everything is legit in regards to the Young posted above (including the flip).

What is it you mean by "legit'? That a clearly altered card found its way into a "1" holder with a flip that makes no sense and is not the right one for a T206?

There are lots of different fakes out there.

(And to CW, the # has nothing to do with it. I know there was a period when this was on flips.)

You can all buy what you want with your money - not a penny of mine would go near that card.

And it ain't just the holder - it is the card (more importantly) too.

Cheers,
Blair

[asoriano]

PSA made an error in regards to the year.

Yes, it should say "1909-1911" or "T206" instead of the 1911 designation.

In my opinion, this card is not altered. I bet if this card was regraded today it would probably come back as a PSA 1 with the "MK" designation (but I've never really seen an alteration on the BACK of a card).