OT -- 1970s Phillies Roster info needed

[ctownboy]

I might be ignorant on this subject but it seems to me if the guy WAS on the roster back in the day and he currently works for an opposing team in the same division as the Phillies, all he would have to do is go to the Philadelphia Front Office while the Nationals were in town and ask to speak to somebody there about the matter. They probably have all the records and could pull up as much info as the guy needed to PROVE he was once in their system and on their 40 man roster.

David

[36GoudeyMan]

.... there is a substnatial language barrier, and he doesn't want to do it himself, so I volunteered to help him... anyone with the Phillies I should check with?

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by 36GoudeyMan

.... there is a substnatial language barrier, and he doesn't want to do it himself, so I volunteered to help him... anyone with the Phillies I should check with?

Call the Phillies directly and ask for the media relations department. They should be able to research for you

[Scott L.]

The Jose Martinez in the list above that was in what I assume was high A ball at the time is not him?

Jose Martinez Peninsula A+

He was a pitcher and looks like he moved to AAA in 1979 so he conceivably would have been invited to spring training in 79 and maybe 78.

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Year Team Lg Age Pos Org Lvl G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS HBP IBB SH SF GDP AVG OBP SLG OPS
1979 Oklahoma City Amer - p phi AAA 22 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .667 .000 667
1980 Oklahoma City Amer - p phi AAA 33 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .000 .000 0

Minor League Totals -- 2 season(s) 55 8 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 5 0 0 0 2 0 .000 .200 --- ---


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Year Team Lg Age Org Lvl W L ERA G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9
1978 Peninsula phi A+ 13 2 2.07 21 19 9 2 1 148 124 51 34 5 51 131 1.18 7.54 0.30 3.10 7.97
1979 Oklahoma City Amer - phi AAA 4 10 5.26 21 21 2 0 0 106 128 77 62 8 55 54 1.73 10.87 0.68 4.67 4.58
1980 Oklahoma City Amer - phi AAA 4 7 5.19 32 9 1 0 2 111 123 72 64 14 57 63 1.62 9.97 1.14 4.62 5.11

Minor Leagues Totals 21 19 3.95 74 49 12 2 3 365 375 200 160 27 163 248 1.47 9.25 0.67 4.02 6.12



Fielding Statistics
Year Team Lg Age Org Level Pos G GS Inn PO A E TC DP PB SB CS FPCT RF
1978 Peninsula Caro - phi A+ P 21 14 21 2 37 2 - - - 946 --
1979 Okla City Amer - phi AAA P 21 7 12 0 19 1 - - - 1.000 --
1980 Okla City Amer - phi AAA P 32 10 10 1 21 0 - - - 952 --

[Teamsets4u]

Here is a link to his stats from baseball reference.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=martin019jos

And here is one from the baseball cube.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/playe...rtinez-9.shtml

neither tell if he was on the 40 man roster.

[insidethewrapper]

Need to check a Phillies Media Guide from the year or years in question. He may be in it and it will tell all about him. I think it may mention if he was on a 40 man roster etc. Ch

[whitehse]

Looking at the information that has been presented here I think I have the wrong Jose Martinez who was the Cubs coach in the 80's. So please disregard my comments on that subject!! But if none of the other leads pan out that have been proposed here, do please contact the media relations department of the Phillies!

[insidethewrapper]

There are 1977 , 1978 etc Philadelphia Phillies Media Guides for sale on ebay right now for under $ 10. This may be a good lead.

[Rob D.]

I'll add this from my experience in the minor leagues, which might or might not be relevant:

An organization will add players to the 40-man roster (and AAA, AA, A rosters) during the off-season. Many of those players never will be on the roster they're assigned to in the winter by the time the season starts. I had teammates in Class AA who were added to Milwaukee's 40-man roster in the winter (for protection purposes to prevent other clubs from claiming them), and they knew they were going to be back in Double-A the next season.

So it's quite possible your friend might have been on the 40-man roster at some point but not the active 40-man roster that comes to most people's mind.

[whitehse]

Working in the front office as I once did it actually mightnot be that easy to pull information up with the team. They dont always have a database of the people on their rosters during spring training especially from the 70's. Unless he was on the offical team roster records might not be available from back then. It would take someone having to contact the media relations department and have them do some research. But to be honest, if he is claiming to be on the regular season roster he would have showed up on many different websites that track this information. I suspect he might have been on the off seaso n 40 man roster or the spring training invitee list and not on the regular season roster.