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[dstudeba]

So what exactly is your defense for selling the below card in one of your storefronts?

http://www.atomicmall.com/seller.php?id=62383

[Matthew H]

Horrible stuff here.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

So what exactly is your defense for selling the below card in one of your storefronts?

http://www.atomicmall.com/seller.php?id=62383

Nicely played. Game. Set. And Match.

We have moved from phony cards to phony cards in phony slabs.

[Vol]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Nicely played. Game. Set. And Match.

+1.

[Leon]

For various reasons I made a management decision and moved this to the front page for all to see. Many, many members don't look at the place that it was on the BST side. I will also reiterate my position on banning and censoring. I am very much against it unless there is something extraordinary that leads to that decision....or multiple infractions etc.... I truly believe that we can learn a lot from these types of threads. Happy collecting!!

[barrysloate]

How about telling people to wipe their ass with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Does that qualify as crossing the line?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

How about telling people to wipe their ass with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Does that qualify as crossing the line?

Yes it does....and quite honestly Barry, if you ran the board it would have been shut down 3578 times now because of this kind of stuff. As I told you earlier this guy is on a short leash...but it's also important to let people stick their feet in their mouths too (imo)......I don't think we should help save people from themselves. I am sure others will disagree, and some will agree, but this has always been my MO.....regards

btw, my 14 yr old has heard the word "ass" many times.....it's not in the top 10 of "dirty words" that can't be said on the board....and also, nothing personal here. You are certainly one of my favorite people in the hobby and I consider you beyond a "hobby" friend...

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yes it does....and quite honestly Barry, if you ran the board it would have been shut down 3578 times now because of this kind of stuff. As I told you earlier this guy is on a short leash...but it's also important to let people stick their feet in their mouths too (imo)......I don't think we should help save people from themselves. I am sure others will disagree, and some will agree, but this has always been my MO.....regards

btw, my 14 yr old has heard the word "ass" many times.....it's not in the top 10 of "dirty words" that can't be said on the board....and also, nothing personal here. You are certainly one of my favorite people in the hobby and I consider you beyond a "hobby" friend...

Leon,

I don’t think we should help save people from themselves either. Call me cold hearted or whatever, but I think when people get scammed (be it by a “reprint” baseball card, Nigerian lottery or whatever), it’s their own fault for being greedy and falling for something that is too good to be true.

I defended the OP in his original thread. After seeing the Wagner card in this thread I have since changed my mind. I think removing the word “reprint” from a card is a pretty crappy thing to do. Regardless of my opinion though, I still think the seller has a right to sell his garbage.

However, that is not my decision, obviously that is yours. However, if you are going to let him sell his junk (even though it was listed in the wrong section), doesn’t he have a right to list it without being interfered with?

That’s how all this started and I am pretty sure the OP wouldn’t have acted the way he did or said the things he said if other members wouldn’t have interfered in his thread - I just don’t think it would have come to this point.

One of the other mods wrote a while back, “In the B/S/T area there should be no interference in the posts by 3rd parties.” Does this not hold true even in this case? I’m not sure why there are such rules if they’re not going to be enforced?

Regards,

David

[prewarsports]

Barry

Parchment is not very absorbant from what I hear anyways, but repro Baseball Cards are. Hopefully there is nothing that chaffe's in his "artificially aging" chemicals!

Rhys

[FUBAR]

Can't believe i missed all this fun. The topic threw me off and i didn't click... but i noticed it was over 100 so i thought something must be going on.

Derek, you made a statement in one of your posts i think sums it all up.

"I was an uneducated buyer and got took for $400 bucks"

I am amazed the grammar police here didn't arrest you!

As for wiping my ass with the constitution, id rather use your cards!

[Tsaiko]

Originally Posted by Leon

For various reasons I made a management decision and moved this to the front page for all to see. Many, many members don't look at the place that it was on the BST side. I will also reiterate my position on banning and censoring. I am very much against it unless there is something extraordinary that leads to that decision....or multiple infractions etc.... I truly believe that we can learn a lot from these types of threads. Happy collecting!!

Leon, let me just say that you're one of the most level headed administrators
I've ever seen on these internet thingys

[Wite3]

Stayed out of this but I too have a pet peeve whenever some misinformed person pulls out the Bill of Rights and the Constitution to protect their "free speech." The Bill of Rights says nothing about your right to say anything. What it talks about is the restriction on the government (specifically the Congress) from creating any laws restricting your right to free speech.
For reference the First Amendment actually reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I will never be arrested for yelling louder than you which is technically restricting your free speech. Never happen. Why, because it is totally legal and the Bill of Rights says nothing about that. Leon can ban you which does not make him a socialist (don't get me started on that view either) or a criminal. It makes him a citizen.

Most "laws" concerning free speech have been created through the actions of the judicial department in interpreting the Constitution and the common laws of the land.

So Derek...to you, I say be quiet, shut your mouth, shut your trap, take it elsewhere, cram it in your piehole, shut off the word faucet, take some pepto for your diarrhea of the mouth, stick your head back in the sand (but take it out of your butt first), hush your mouth, put a sock in it, zip it, pipe down, cut the chatter, children should be seen and not heard, simmer down, etc....none of which is illegal or trampling on your rights. So sorry.

Joshua

Joshua

[rarerookies]

sorry guys for all the posts i am just now getting to respond to everyone.

Good point when you say that Leon has the authority to cease my free speech on the forum. and why, because i am on his turf? So i appreciate him letting me express my viewpoints as well because i am enjoying this conversation.

Got a question for you josh. you dont have to answer on the board, just answer it in your head. When you ride in another persons car do you feel compelled to change there radio station or toggle there a/c?

Originally Posted by Wite3

Stayed out of this but I too have a pet peeve whenever some misinformed person pulls out the Bill of Rights and the Constitution to protect their "free speech." The Bill of Rights says nothing about your right to say anything. What it talks about is the restriction on the government (specifically the Congress) from creating any laws restricting your right to free speech.
For reference the First Amendment actually reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I will never be arrested for yelling louder than you which is technically restricting your free speech. Never happen. Why, because it is totally legal and the Bill of Rights says nothing about that. Leon can ban you which does not make him a socialist (don't get me started on that view either) or a criminal. It makes him a citizen.

Most "laws" concerning free speech have been created through the actions of the judicial department in interpreting the Constitution and the common laws of the land.

So Derek...to you, I say be quiet, shut your mouth, shut your trap, take it elsewhere, cram it in your piehole, shut off the word faucet, take some pepto for your diarrhea of the mouth, stick your head back in the sand (but take it out of your butt first), hush your mouth, put a sock in it, zip it, pipe down, cut the chatter, children should be seen and not heard, simmer down, etc....none of which is illegal or trampling on your rights. So sorry.

Joshua

Joshua

[rarerookies]

I got the idea from anther person selling them but stopped selling those because like you, i felt that was a little too far. Since then i had stopped selling them

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Nicely played. Game. Set. And Match.

We have moved from phony cards to phony cards in phony slabs.

[Rob D.]