Would you still use BGS?

[FUBAR]

I discussed that card on another forum about a week ago and i posed this question that no one could answer....

Beckett has sub-grades, and one of the sub-grades is for centering. Now your final grade from Beckett cannot be more then 1 above the lowest sub-grade.

So someone tell me how that card received at least an 8 for centering???

This is also the most valuable Ryan Leaf card on the planet for some reason!

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by FUBAR

This is also the most valuable Ryan Leaf card on the planet for some reason!

Ryan Leaf has valuable cards?

Beckett made a name for themselves by being unreasonably tough on modern cards. I'm surprised they changed that part of their strategy. People know they changed their standards. I see BGS cards advertised as "old holder" and they seem to sell for more.

[jimm]

Originally Posted by matthew h

ryan leaf has valuable cards?

[leaf]"knock it off!!!"[/leaf]

[mintacular]

If you believe in BVG, now you don't:


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-TOPPS-TOM-S...item3362bb31e5

http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-TOPPS-MICKE...item33627cd747

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by mintacular

If you believe in BVG, now you don't:


http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-TOPPS-TOM-S...item3362bb31e5

http://cgi.ebay.com/1969-TOPPS-MICKE...item33627cd747

sorry, but what are you trying to say by posting these scans? Both scans (especially the Mantle) are very poor and there is no way by looking at those scans that you can tell me their grading is way off. Or is it something else im looking for? Honestly im not sure why i will "no longer believe in BGS" by looking at these scans.

[packs]

The Mantle has a pen mark on the back of it. There is a red X through the card number. The Seaver has some pretty weak corners and centering for a 6.

[mintacular]

Yes, the Red Mark "x" on the Mantle back, and look at the faded yellow color on the Seaver...

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by FUBAR

So someone tell me how that card received at least an 8 for centering???

I guarantee you because the card is labeled as "miscut" they didn't take the same centering standards into consideration as they would with a "normal" card.

Actually the head grader of BGS is a member here and if he sees this thread i bet he will say the same thing.

[Ohio_Collectibles]

I just find it strange as I have never seen BGS use a "qualifier" before. I know PSA has been doing it for years.