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Old 11-12-2010, 11:50 AM
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There are a couple of things we know about these cards that I think are very revealing:
  • Almost all of the known examples (arguably with the exception of the O'Hara example) are cut in a very uneven manner that is consistent with hand-cut cards
  • the white borders are much wider than other cards of the period
  • the stock is thicker than other cards of the period

I'm confident they were hand cut, which means that this was either a strip card set with very wide borders in between the cards, or they were hand cut from a box or some type of advertisement.
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:10 PM
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Maybe this was discussed before but they all almost look like they are 3d cards to me. Even the colors are typically 3d colors. Anyone have a pair of glasses?
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:18 PM
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Every one other than Wagner looks copied from T206.... that has to mean something, if only to T206 collectors.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:37 PM
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copied artwork from T206...
It means its unlikely they are from 1909 as the slab says

Thats why Ive called them 1910

I have seen a couple others but lost the images and info many computers ago
I believe they were T206 poses too, the Wagner is the only different one Ive seen and is probably because the artist couldnt get a hold of a T206 Wagner to copy... for obvious reasons

PS. for those following these cards, the Ohara was heavily damaged when the owner hired an "expert" to remove it from the backing it was glued to. It suffered major surface damage (flaking). I dont know the facts of how he tried to remove the card but you should never soak a piece of cardboard in water for a long time. Ive soaked many a card and never for more than a couple minutes, and many far less time.... Ive seen some recommend soaking them overnight ......."WTF!!"

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Old 11-12-2010, 04:55 PM
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Im curious, what did the SGC-A Bridwell sell for???

I have never seen one of these sell yet, so dont know what type of value they have. I offered a couple hundred for the OHara when it was still glued, but the offer was declined. Then I was just helping the owner find info on it. Havent talked to him in over a year and dont know where the OHara is now.
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$1673 (including buyers premium)



From Old Cardboards most recent email newsletter:

2. New Player Discovered for Obscure "Blue Caption" Set


The card of N. Y. Giants short stop Al Bridwell has been discovered from a set that is not widely known among even the most seasoned vintage collectors.

The Bridwell card along with another from the set featuring Giants teammate Moose McCormick sold earlier this month in an auction held by Heritage Auctions. The Bridwell card is unique and not previously known to the hobby; another example of the McCormick card from the set has been previously reported.

Counting the Bridwell card, there are still only four known players represented in the set checklist.

The cards are similar in size and format with other candy and tobacco cards of the period. With their captions printed in blue ink, the cards are remarkably similar to cards from the E104 Nadja Caramel set produced in 1910. Important differences, however, distinguish the cards from this set, sometimes referred to as "Blue Captions" for obvious reasons.

While the E104 Nadja cards all feature chest-up poses, the few known examples of the "Blue Captions" set (except for Bridwell) feature action poses. In addition, the captions on the "Blue Captions" cards are all printed using upper/lower case lettering, while the Nadja cards are printed in all upper case letters. The captions on cards in both sets include the player last name and team.


The sponsor and method of distribution for the "Blue Caption" cards remains unknown. They are printed on thick card stock, indicating they may have been cut from a candy box or possibly from a notebook cover.

The two examples in the Heritage auctions were graded by SGC and designated as "E-UNC" cards, suggesting they were distributed by an early gum or candy manufacturer. From the few examples known today, however, we can only speculate now as to their origins. All known examples have blank backs.

Counting this recent discovery, only six examples from the Blue Caption set (representing four different players) have been reported by today's collectors. The two other players are Giants center fielder Bill O'Hara and Pittsburg's famous short stop Honus Wagner--the only Hall of Fame player known to the set. Two of Wagner's cards have been reported.

Based on the team affiliations of the four known players, it appears that the cards were produced in 1909. All four played for the teams named on the cards in 1909. O'Hara only played for the Giants for one year (1909), and neither he nor McCormick were on the Giants roster in 1910.

The Bridwell card sold in the recent Heritage auction for $1,673 (including buyer's premium); the McCormick card sold for $717.

A "Blue Caption" Set Profile, including a checklist and gallery of all known cards, has been added to the Old Cardboard website.

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Old 11-12-2010, 05:22 PM
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Thanks Anthony, wow I was off a bit on value.... I was thinking $300 or so

Funny how some of these uncataloged cards jump in value while others just as rare stay in the low hundreds....

I see now why they say 1909, thanks for the info, aloha
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