where are these?

rhettyeakley · #1 10-30-2010, 10:24 PM

$680 is a totally crazy price but then again it never should have gotten a numerical grade in the first place!

These initially sold for decent money years ago BUT when they were determined to have been cut from a notebook cover it really killed the prices. I always liked them until I found that out as well. Recently, when up for sale the commons in generally G to GVG condition have sold in the $50-125 range, more if a collector of a particular player gets in the mix and drives up the price.

IMO these aren't really cards and shouldn't be considered even W-Unc as they were never intended to be cut (there is no "Hey kid cut these out" or "cut along the dotted lines" notation on the cover). They are certainly cool looking but shouldn't be considered anything more than cutouts, BUT they have been part of the hobby long enough as singles that maybe hobby history will trump common sense.

-Rhett

dstudeba · #2 10-31-2010, 02:17 PM

Here are pictures of the Notebook. I believe this copy will be in Goodwin's next auction.

Exhibitman · #3 10-31-2010, 02:38 PM

I think that distinction between strip card and not strip card is difficult to make, Rhett. I mean, W560, W565 and W590 sheets don't have cutting instructions on them. Perhaps the allure of the notebook to kids was the ability to cut them up after school was out and have a card collection?

Kawika · #4 10-31-2010, 02:45 PM

So that's where they come from! Kinda takes a bit of the thrill out of things. Glad I only paid a minor sum for this "W-UNC" Chase.

Rickyy · #5 10-31-2010, 02:58 PM

The prices are all over the map on these...I agree. I got mine cheap. If enough of these were cut up and or saved by kids..then I can see it being consdiered a "collectible card" even though it may not have been intended to be.

esd10 · #6 10-31-2010, 03:20 PM

how could you ever put a grade on these cards besides auth. just because one kid cut it out better then other and later in its life a collector bought a whole note book and then cut it up and sent it to psa or sgc and had it graded. this makes no sense to me.

tbob · #7 10-31-2010, 03:36 PM

+1

Collect Equity · #8 11-01-2010, 08:04 PM

Does anyone know how much the Wagner sells for?

What about a Wagner with math equations written on it because I bet in 3 months we'll see this same Wagner graded 'SGC Aut' on ebay

-Jonathan

Spartan · #9 02-13-2011, 05:18 PM

I met the individual that won the Carrigan for $411 or whatever at a show reecently... he did indeed put in on EBAY for auction and it sold to someone with over 16000 feedback score, YET, as of this past weekend, he still possesses that very card. Sticker on it is over $800. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm. Out of only 4 bidders, I was one of the 'losing' bidders, and I don't think anyone was gonna win unless it hit a certain unlisted 'reserve', lets say. Funny, small world.

peterose4hof · #10 02-14-2011, 10:09 AM

FYI, One of these notebooks just sold for $575 in the Goodwin auction that closed a few days ago.

http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.as...tars-Notebook-

carrigansghost · #11 02-15-2011, 08:21 AM

$800 would be more than enough to pry mine away.

Fred · #12 02-15-2011, 04:29 PM

I wonder how much that notebook (from where these things came from) would sell for. You could piece it out and make a ton of $$$ if you cut out the individual images and found the right buyers. I don't consider these cards. Of course, that's just my opinion.