Just Look At What the Roaches Have Now

[Vintagedegu]

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[canjond]

Thanks for posting that article. Guess this helps answer my question: "According to Sotheby's, of the 51 known Gwinnetts, this is one of just eight from the year 1776 and the closest of all to July 4th. "

[Vintagedegu]

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[RichardSimon]

I don't know how many are known to exist. He was shot and killed in a duel just 9 months after signing the Declaration.
Amazing how the Roaches keep turning up such amazing stuff.
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[mr2686]

A little known fact is that 2 months before he was killed in that duel, he and the other declaration signers did a show with Roaches Corner (then known just as The Roaches). Many items were signed, including several Betsy Ross prototype flags, deer skins and game used muskets. To make sure everything was legit, they used the law office of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe and everything was authenticated by Benedict Morales.

[GrayGhost]

Well, that DOI signing is sold out, I think. Some custom signed items can still be made up .. I mean available..haha, if you contact the sewer rats at the Corner.

Anyways, thanks for someone starting a new Roach's thread, as Ive had major personal issues lately, and lost track of time.

Now, HOW IN HEAVEN CAN THEY EXPECT ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN TO BELIEVE THIS IS REAL? COME ON

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/212/1919-2...-baseball.aspx

To this next one, a big YEAH RIGHT. looks like it was just done its so bold and so fake:

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/212/lou-ge...-baseball.aspx

When you click this one on, the picture actually is SMALLER. Nice way to cover up another pathetic disgrace

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/212/george...ument-cut.aspx

Oh, and check out lot 30. One of the rarest and most highly sought after signatures of the 20th century, and they have TWO in the first 30 lots. I mean, REA, Hunts, Legendary, Lelands, and all the other big auctions, why bother, you can NEVER EVER compete with the pipeline that the Corner has (Mind you, Im not saying whats inside the pipes...)

Plus, the awful Ruth/Gehrig bat, a solo Gehrig Bat, another in the assembly line of fake Beatles signed albums and more and I haven't even left page one

[danc]

Single examples of Gwinnett’s autograph have been sold for as much as $150,000. Its extraordinarily high value is a result of a combination of the desire by many top collectors to acquire a complete set of autographs by all 56 signers of the U.S. Declaration of Independence, and the extreme rarity of the Gwinnett signature (there are less than 30 known extant examples, since Gwinnett was fairly obscure prior to signing the Declaration and died shortly afterwards).His autograph today is valued at around $250,000.

[RichardSimon]

Let us guess the final price of this beauty.
I say $420 for an autograph that is valued at $150,000.
Way to go Lee.
BTW - to repeat myself, where is the COA on this one?
I have reference books, one by Hamilton, one by Rawlins, with exemplars.

[tinkereversandme]

Could it be that Ted and Chris wouldn't even pass this?

Do these guys desire to get caught?

They have now sold virtually every difficult, rare of a kind and items that the hobby doesn't believe exists and there is only one left.

Williams Shakespeare.

If you are selling $250,000 autographs now, may as well sell one that sells for over a $1 Million, right?

My guess $850 on the Gwinett.

Regards,

Larry

[FUBAR]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I don't know how many are known to exist. He was shot and killed in a duel just 9 months after signing the Declaration.
Amazing how the Roaches keep turning up such amazing stuff.
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Richard, it's obvious to me, they just use their time machine to go back and personally get these things autographed, why is that so hard for you to understand and respect?

[FUBAR]

ok i am not a ball expert, but the 1919 white sox baseball. The blue and red threaded balls.. I was told on here before they didn't produce those balls until 1926.. is that correct?

[scooter729]

I'd love if someone could turn up one of these "signed" items having been sold on eBay a month or so prior to the Roaches having it, only unsigned at the time.

For instance, like the Mathewson $1 bill - it's got a serial number and all. Wouldn't THAT be some nice evidence to see it sold two months ago unsigned? Then you check the buyer's track record and buying history, and the walls start falling.

(And yes, I DID check already for the serial number on the Mathewson bill - no luck. But they're smarter than that, I guess.)

[Exhibitman]

It is really just sad. Every one of the sales could be viewed as another collector who will be turned off to the hobby when he finds out the facts.

Or just proof that Darwin had a point...Nature really does weed out the nimrods, in so many ways.

[tinkereversandme]

I was reading autographalert.com just now (thanks Dave for pointing me in the direction of a site I usually enjoy ignoring because it's motive as a rival authenticator merely exists to promote itself, it seems) and I plucked from the bottom of the update the following:

Something is being done for the health of the autograph hobby and it is suggested if you have had a bad experience in the past with one of the high profile autograph authenticating companies or when you have a bad experience in the future that you sit down, do your part and write a letter explaining how you have been victimized to:

Office of Director, Robert S. Mueller, III
Federal Bureau of Investigation
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20535-0001

For your info two Special Agents with the F.B.I. are also actively working on autograph fraud and they are well aware of 3rd party autograph authentication.

Take your complaint/observations one step further, send a copy of your complaint to:

Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Attorney General of the United States
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave. NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001[/B]

So maybe someone cares out there. Complaining on this board is fine and fun and all (the post about what should Coach's sell next was roll around the floor funny), but maybe a good old fashion letter campaign is the way to go here.

Regards,

L