Share an interesting fact about a t206 player

[iggyman]

What about the colorful Heinie "The Great Zim" Zimmerman (the last card in the set if sorting alphabetically). He was the goat of the 1917 world series, which for awhile rival the Merkle and Snodgrass boners. He was also subsequently banned by Judge Landis for his association with gamblers and prior history of crookedness. On a side note, he ended-up finishing his baseball career with an independent team called the Bronx Giants.

Lovely Day...

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[Rob D.]

After he retired, Nap Lajoie had a pet dachshund. I know this only because:

1. I'm a fan of Lajoie;

2. I'm a bigger fan of dachshunds.

There actually is a really cool photo of Lajoie after his playing days ended taking his dog for a walk. I found it online, saved it to my computer, then lost it during a crash. If anyone by chance knows the photo in question, please drop me a line.

[barrysloate]

Back in the 1950's there was a popular show on television called "This is Your Life", and it was hosted by Ralph Edwards. The premise was they would surprise a celebrity and then have a host of people from that person's past come out and share memories. One of the show's subjects was Casey Stengel, and two of the surprise guests they brought in to reminisce were Irish Meusel and Zach Wheat. Zach was in his seventies by then but he looked very athletic and had huge hands. He spoke for a few moments about Casey's early career. Can anyone recall any other T206er who appeared and spoke on television?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Back in the 1950's there was a popular show on television called "This is Your Life", and it was hosted by Ralph Edwards. The premise was they would surprise a celebrity and then have a host of people from that person's past come out and share memories. One of the show's subjects was Casey Stengel, and two of the surprise guests they brought in to reminisce were Irish Meusel and Zach Wheat. Zach was in his seventies by then but he looked very athletic and had huge hands. He spoke for a few moments about Casey's early career. Can anyone recall any other T206er who appeared and spoke on television?

Did anyone die when Zach Wheat spoke?

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Did anyone die when Zach Wheat spoke?

I'm missing the joke Dan...but there is a joke in there.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I'm missing the joke Dan...but there is a joke in there.

You must have missed Barry Arnold's post up above?

[barrysloate]

Yes Dan, I did. My apologies Barry.

[iggyman]

How about T206 Charles "Red" Dooin, who was the inventor of the paper-mache shin guards. His story about being offered a bribe during the exciting 1908 National league pennant race has always intrigued me. For the record, the Giants played the Phillies eight times at the tail-end of the season (infamous Merkle boner season). Interesting enough, the Giants won five of those games, but the only loses came against a late-season rookie call-up............Polish sensation Harry Covaleski (perhaps, too green to be corrupted(?)). As a footnote, during one of the games, Dooin was badly spiked by Roger Bresnahan in a five-inning collision at home plate and had to leave the game. Here is Dooin's version of the alleged bribe and kidnapping(?)...

Lovely Day...

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[tedzan]

Simon Nicholls was a very devoted family man, who so loved his Maryland farm, that when Connie Mack scouted him from the Maryland
Agricultural College (now Univ of Maryland), Simon would commute to Philadelphia. Nicholls' life story is the "stuff" that used to inspire
some great true life Hollywood BB movies.
Connie Mack acquired Nicholls at the end of the 1906 season. Simon was an average hitter, but an excellent shortstop. One of Nicholls'
best days at bat was on Opening Day of Shibe Park on April 12, 1909. He got a Double, 2 Singles, and a Walk. He scored 4 Runs to win
the 1st game at the A's new Stadium....in front of an unprecedented 35,000 fans.

In December 1909 Connie Mack traded Nicholls to Cleveland. This trade really upset Nicholls since it took away from his family and farm.
So, after 3 games with Cleveland, Nicholls retired. That season he connected with Jack Dunn, Manager of Baltimore (Eastern League),
who was impressed with Nicholls' play and made him field captain in 1911. Unfortunately, Nicholls contracted typhoid fever and died at
the young age of 28 on Mar 12, 1911.

Nicholls 350 Series card (batting) was actually designed as a 350/460 Series Subject. This we know since it has an American Beauty 350
back (without a Frame). However, it is an anamoly in the T206 set since his Batting pose was never printed with any 460 series backs.
Perhaps, this was due to his Major League career ending in early 1910.


TED Z

[T206Collector]

[oldjudge]

1--Threw a no hitter in his first ML start
2--Threw a second no hitter 0n 4/22/98 (so did Jay Hughes of Baltimore). This was the first time in ML history that two no hitters had been thrown on the same day.

[Anthony S.]

Spike Shannon shot Archduke Ferdinand in June of 1914. He batted .236 the previous year for the Virginia Ore Diggers of the Northern League.

[barrysloate]

Spike Shannon started World War I- I did not know that.

[CMIZ5290]

One of my favorites is iron man joe mcginnity. Played professionally forever, all the way until he was 55 years old! His t206 representation was when he was in his twilight years as a minor leaguer.

[barrysloate]

Dan- I didn't know you guys could sneak in like that. It was one of those lines that sounded funny when I wrote it...then I reread it and it wasn't as funny.

[mybuddyinc]

Shag Shaughnessy:

"Shaughnessy" Playoffs: 4 vs. 1; 3 vs. 2.

Sell a few more tickets and hot dogs at end of season, great idea .....

[ethicsprof]

thanks for letting me know what Barry wrote;
i was afraid that he might be angry with me.

by the way, i've just written something and now erased it.
can you see that too, Dan---even if i never pushed 'submit reply'.
if so , you really do have the power.

best,
barry

[barrysloate]

Barry- Dan and Leon are running this site like a police state...they are spying on us all!

[ethicsprof]

or perhaps it's just big government protecting us---otherwise, we'd
be left to spend our tragic lives eating and copulating, as Thomas Hobbes
would suggest.

all the best,
barry

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Barry- Dan and Leon are running this site like a police state...they are spying on us all!

Perhaps I've said too much?

I actually rarely look at deleted or edited posts. Only when it's a flame war or it's aimed at me.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by ethicsprof

thanks for letting me know what Barry wrote;
i was afraid that he might be angry with me.

by the way, i've just written something and now erased it.
can you see that too, Dan---even if i never pushed 'submit reply'.
if so , you really do have the power.

best,
barry

I can see all!...actually when I saw that "Delete" on Barry's post I was hoping for major misspellings and grammatical errors.

[ethicsprof]

ain't gonna happen, buddy!!!

best,
barry

[judsonhamlin]

Jack Quinn is the only person to appear as a full-time player in both T206 and the 1933 Goudey set, and is the only non-HOFer to appear in those two sets as well.

[iggyman]

How about "Sleepy" Bill Burns, who was a key player in the 1919 Black Sox drama. He met with the players and served as the go-between with the gamblers. Was also the star witness for the prosecution.

Lovely Day...

[Theoldprofessor]

Was Thomes Hobbes really Roy Hobbes' elder brother? They spelled their names differently, but there was still an uncanny family resemblance. Roy was a loner, broke, intemperate on occcasion, and stood only 5' 9"

And Tom built a career on being solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.

And he shot Spike Shannon attempting to steal home late, after mixing his labor once too often

[Bridwell]

Speedy Hans Lobert was an interesting personality. He stole 47 bases in 1908. One time in 1913, somebody staged an exhibition game and the grand finale was Lobert racing a race horse around the bases. He nearly won, with the horse passing him between 3rd and home.

John 'Dots' Miller got his nickname when somebody asked Honus Wagner who the rookie was. Honus said 'that's Miller' but with his thick accent, the reporters thought he said 'Dots'.