Roger Hooper - Guilty

[Leon]

Dan M sent the story over....so here ya' go...


http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.co...d%20of%20fraud

[barrysloate]

And Coaches Corner is alive and well. Can somebody please explain why the feds haven't shut them down?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

And Coaches Corner is alive and well. Can somebody please explain why the feds haven't shut them down?

Maybe they have a better defense lawyer. Maybe they are actually the victim.

[barrysloate]

Having a better defense lawyer would help them if they were charged with something. But has any action whatsoever ever been taken against them? I get the impression they conduct business unscathed.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Having a better defense lawyer would help them if they were indicted for something. But has any action whatsoever ever been taken against them? I get the impression they conduct business unscathed.

The value of a defense lawyer is not necessarily limited to post-indictment.

[barrysloate]

Peter- I meant charged with anything, which I changed as you posted.

[Peter_Spaeth]

That's all an indictment is, a charge. People should keep that in mind with respect to the talk concerning Mastro and Allen. The government still has to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt, unless there is a plea.

[barrysloate]

I always assumed they hid behind all those LOA's that come with the lots. I assume their defense would be "we went to the trouble and expense of having every one of our lots examined by a forensic expert, so what did we do wrong?" Or something to that effect.

Thanks Peter- I don't know all the legal terms. I count on you for that.

[Dalkiel]

A little bump.

http://www.fox43.com/news/wpmt-cumbe...,6959919.story

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

And Coaches Corner is alive and well. Can somebody please explain why the feds haven't shut them down?

Barry, there are about 200 other criminals operating auction houses, engaging in shill bidding or altering cards as we speak who aren't the target of a federal investigation either. Unless and until we raise the tax rates to about 95% and many unemployed people get off their asses and start working so that they too can be taxed at a 95% rate there probably won't be enough money to fund all the investigations you want.

[barrysloate]

Jeff- wouldn't you say that Coaches Corner is selling this kind of material on a rather large scale, and for a very long time?

[Matt]

I would guess that forged autos are much tougher to prove then shill bidding and card doctoring. Of course, if the forgeries are done by dot matrix printer, its a tad easier...

[barrysloate]

Matt- in the case against Hooper, Jimmy Spence was called in and testified that Hooper was selling fake sigs. He could do the same against CC or anyone else.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Matt- in the case against Hooper, Jimmy Spence was called in and testified that Hooper was selling fake sigs. He could do the same against CC or anyone else.

Barry - it seemed that the key to his testimony was seeing the dot patterns from a dot matrix printer on the sigs. From what I understand, these were not hand made forgeries, but rather printed ones, which are much easier to prove conclusively. Assuming a forgery is done in the correct pen, on the correct medium, I'd think it difficult to legally prove that it wasn't done by a certain individual - maybe he signed when he had something in his eye, or signed in an airplane where his movement was restricted or any number of reasons a sig might look different then a normal exemplar.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Jeff- wouldn't you say that Coaches Corner is selling this kind of material on a rather large scale, and for a very long time?

Barry, I don't know. Have you contacted the FBI office local to Coaches Corner and made a complaint? Or any local law enforcement office?

[barrysloate]

No, I have not. I've never done any business with them. But I'm willing to bet they have bidders who have purchased numerous bad items from them. You would think at least one or more of them would be pretty irate after discovering they bought countefeit material. Those are the people who should and maybe have lodged complaints against them.

[calvindog]

Barry, people other than victims can make complaints or report illegal activity. I'm not sure if you have any free time but if you do you should contact state and federal law enforcement if you have reason to believe that they are engaging in fraud.