Novelty Cutlery Postcard Dating - 1910?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Craig:

Not only the Speaker but how about the Cobb? Would it have sold for close to the same amount if not considered one of his Rookie Cards?

My guess is that the same person that bought the Speaker bought the Cobb also........

I don't know of anyone who ever considered the NC Cobb to be one of his rookie cards.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Jeff:

I think that just about all HOF Rookie Card collectors have considered the Novelty Cutlery Cobb to be one of his Rookie Card options along with the Dietsche, Wolverine & Taylor postcards and W600. That is assuming that you are not hung up on the postcards are not "cards" thing and therefore do not qualify for Rookie Card status.

[bcbgcbrcb]

That's interesting, Paul. Where did you get the name of that publisher and how is it connected to those two sets?

[deadballpaul]

The Vignos family operated the Novelty Cutlery business. Vignos & Hurford was a photography company operated in conjunction with the knife business. I believe there was a photography gallery in a separate building on the Knife factory property.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Jeff:

I think that just about all HOF Rookie Card collectors have considered the Novelty Cutlery Cobb to be one of his Rookie Card options along with the Dietsche, Wolverine & Taylor postcards and W600. That is assuming that you are not hung up on the postcards are not "cards" thing and therefore do not qualify for Rookie Card status.

his w601 postcard is from 1906.

[bcbgcbrcb]

You're right about the 1906 Cobb, Jeff. I was not including it because it is a team composite like the W601 Sporting Life premiums.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Something to think about, assuming that the 1907-09 date were correct (which it appears not to be), do we think that date was used in catalogues because the date of issue could not be pinpointed to a specific year but those three years are the only possibilities although the issue would have been produced in its entirety during only one of those years? Alternatively, do we feel that this set was issued over a three year time frame with not all cards available during a single year?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Jeff:

I think that just about all HOF Rookie Card collectors have considered the Novelty Cutlery Cobb to be one of his Rookie Card options along with the Dietsche, Wolverine & Taylor postcards and W600. That is assuming that you are not hung up on the postcards are not "cards" thing and therefore do not qualify for Rookie Card status.

I think if you search the archives of Net 54 you'll find that most do not consider the NC to be one of Cobb's rookies, PC or not. As for PCs, the W601 PC surely came before the NC as did the Dietsche.

[chaddurbin]

excellent research kevin!

some people's definition of a rookie card is contingent on whether they own said card or not.