T206 Advice?? Update

DICKTOWLE · #1 09-21-2010, 11:39 AM

For 16 years we have been removing paper on back of cards without soaking, also we remove glue, i enjoy reading what other people do, however if you want our company to do this we will at no charge, 'gone with the stain" . For the record many customers from the great chat 54 have used my service, we can help. Thank you again dick towle

rp12367 · #2 10-05-2010, 09:33 PM

As I stated in my last post I was sitting on the fence as to what to do with my recent purchase. I was contacted by Dick Towle a board member who reassured me that he could help with my card. No soaking needed. I called Dick on the phone and after talking to him I felt comfortable sending the card to him so he could work his magic. Well after a few days I got the card back from Dick and I was very happy with the result I can't thank him enough for the help with the card. I would recommend his services to anyone out there looking for the same results.... Thanks again Ralph

Before

After

Besides tiny flea sized paper loss near the B, which appears to have been there already if you look close at the before pic, card is now super nice and alot better than the before grade of a SGC 10 Poor...

DJR · #3 10-05-2010, 10:17 PM

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Matthew H · #4 10-05-2010, 11:05 PM

If you want to avoid cards removed from a scrap book, just avoid high grade cards.

DJR · #5 10-06-2010, 12:21 AM

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Jaybird · #6 10-06-2010, 12:39 AM

I just wanted to point out that the card, though appearing a bit better (in some people's eyes), will still only grade a 2. The paper loss on the back will keep it from grading any higher.

So in essence, all of this work was done to bring it from a 1 to a 2. Seems like a lot of unnecessary fiddling.

Matthew H · #7 10-06-2010, 01:50 AM

I think the technical grade is subjective. The card looks 100% better. The card was already altered when someone spread glue on the back. I personally don't have a problem owning a card with this type of "alteration".

I think it was a very nice gesture, doing this for free. Glue removed, wrinkles and round corners intact.

vintagetoppsguy · #8 10-06-2010, 01:04 PM

It�s just my personal opinion, but I don�t consider what was done to the card as an �alteration� especially since whatever was done is untraceable. To me, it�s no different than taking nylon hose and removing wax residue from the front of a card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaybird

I just wanted to point out that the card, though appearing a bit better (in some people's eyes), will still only grade a 2. The paper loss on the back will keep it from grading any higher.

So in essence, all of this work was done to bring it from a 1 to a 2. Seems like a lot of unnecessary fiddling.

I don�t think the OP has the intentions of re-grading it. He just wanted a nice looking card and states in his original post, �I would probably just leave the card raw in my collection afterwards.�

T206Collector · #9 10-06-2010, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJR

I prefer high grade (and low grade) cards that remain original and intact, free of chemicals / solvents, cards that once had indents, tape, ink, etc. Call me old fashioned, I guess. I also do not appreciate the pressers / trimmers, emery boards, and other nefarious activities.

Unfortunately (for some), Dick Towle's techniques do not leave any trace of their usage. PSA and SGC will freely grade these cards. I had a beautiful SGC 80 once that was Towle-job, so to speak. The card had previously been in a scrap book.

If you collect high grade pre-war cards, you should fully expect that many of them used to be in scrap books and were soaked off by water or via other non-traceable means. Why do you think the corners are so sharp and the borders so white?!

I think this is one of the most interesting topics in card collecting -- rife with controversy and opinions all over the place.

Doug · #10 10-06-2010, 08:43 AM

I wouldn't have an issue buying a soaked card. I'd say there's more of an alteration to the card by having paper or glue residue on it. I think it would be like saying an otherwise all original classic car is restored because you took it to the car wash and washed off all of the "original" dirt that it picked up over the years. Then again, that's just my opinion as wrong as some may find it to be.

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