1919 Reds Pennant

[oriolesbb6]

Might as well been accompanied by an email from a former prince of Nigeria or cancer stricken Nun. There is a alot of old fabric out there, old print types, felt, ink, etc. Folk art is mass produced and sold as antique quite often. Beware of anyone who states they are an Ebay loyalist..........

[barrysloate]

Another thing that concerns me is a seller who uses the term "so just keep your panties on" in his description. That's not good.

[sayhey24]

Here's one more of that same style -- this one dated much later -- 1958 Negro Leagues. Saw this at the National -- didn't buy it because something didn't seem right.

Greg

baseballbasement.com

[GrayGhost]

Interesting topic. I think they are all fakes, and not of the period at all. People just need to be so careful.

[perezfan]

That 1958 Negro League Pennant really clinches it... thanks for posting, Greg.

Same stars, same stenciled font, same material, same color combination, same red strip on the left side. Same idea, taking epic subject matter and putting it on a generic stenciled pennant. What are the odds that these people were making the same style of pennant from 1919 through 1958 (or even longer, on the probability that others start popping up).

Beyond the realm of possibility, and all of these are fantasy pieces. In other words... fake!

[slidekellyslide]

I think that "honest old poop" is going to be getting a "pennant" back. A 40 year stretch between three folk art like pennants using the same materials, style and font? They're all fake.

[GoldenAge50s]

I read all your posts and have great respect for your knowledge of pennants. You went into a lot more depth than I did to arrive at your conclusions.

2 questions:

(1) The size of the letters on the Cincy pennant look a bit smaller than on Ruth & the Negroe Lg--Are they?

(2) Is it possible, or likely, that the Cincy is authentic period & the other 2 are just fake copycats? The Seller said he had heard of just one other like the Cincy.

In fairness to the Seller, he goes out of his way to assure Buyers they can return anything for 7 days w/out a problem & has an exemplary selling record, so if it is bogus I'm sure he has no idea..

[murphusa]

Originally Posted by sayhey24

Here's one more of that same style -- this one dated much later -- 1958 Negro Leagues. Saw this at the National -- didn't buy it because something didn't seem right.

Greg

baseballbasement.com

When looking at it the first thing you do is look at what you see.

1958 Negro League, was the league still in business, no
25 times champions, no

Babe Ruth, picture with number in 1928, no

most people who forge things or make up things don't follow too close to the details