I think I bought a fake...

[Matthew H]

The refund will not be too hard. Ask the seller first, if "no" is the answer, then eBay buyer protection.

Either way, get return shipping tracking. VERY important. Once tracking shows delivered, eBay buyer protection will deposit money into your paypal.

Ask the seller first though if you can return it before opening a case with ebay.

Good luck. (you wont need it, it's not that hard)

[Luke]

Thanks guys. So should I contact the seller first, or contact ebay and the seller simultaneously? And if I contact seller first, how do I make sure I get my refund? Do they send to my paypal account before I send the card back? Thanks again.

Luke

[lharri3600]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

Thanks guys. So should I contact the seller first, or contact ebay and the seller simultaneously? And if I contact seller first, how do I make sure I get my refund? Do they send to my paypal account before I send the card back? Thanks again.

Luke

contact seller first. then open an item not as described case,make sure the seller didn't have reprint in description.

[T206Collector]

...I agree, but it is a pretty good one as far as these things go.

[chaddurbin]

seller might not realize it's a fake himself.

[FUBAR]

Definite fake, it almost looks fuzzy like pin printed.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

seller might not realize it's a fake himself.

That's what I was thinking. He has decent feedback - only 1 negative in the last year and IMO he didn't deserve it.

While looking through his feedback, this seems to be the only T206 he has sold...at least as far back as I looked (June), so he probably didn't know.

As advised, you should contact him before opening a case. Also as advised, if he agrees to accept the return, make sure you send it with delivery confirmation.

[B O'Brien]

That is a pretty solid one. I might have bought that one too. I tend to kind of just blow through sometimes.
Good luck with the resolve.
Bob

[Vol]

Sorry about possibly buying a fake Mathewson. Please keep us informed on how it turns out, as it will help us newbies know how to handle this situation.
Thanks
Isaac

[Phillies*phan]

The sure sign is the size of the back. The cards not oversized on the front but on the back bottom it's got a huge border.

[Luke]

So, I talked to the seller. He said he feels the card is genuine and wanted me to get an opinion of someone local who could hold the card and look at it closely. He said that after I did that I could send it back for a refund. I didn't really want to do this, as I think all of the answers I've received here make it pretty clear that the card is a fake. Anyway, I agreed to do this and took it to a local dealer. He showed me a few reasons that he knew it was fake including color and tint, which were also the first things I noticed. So, I sent the seller an ebay message saying I will send it back tomorrow. Should I also open a case with ebay buyer protection? And, the seller insisted that I should get insurance when I send it back, and told me that I don't need to get delivery confirmation. I am definitely going to get confirmation because everyone here has mentioned that I should, but the insurance thing could be weird, because they will ask how much its worth. Do I say like $1? Sorry this is so long, any help is appreciated. Just want to make sure I do this right. I don't really have any reason to think the seller is dishonest, but I was disappointed that he didn't make the return easier for me, so I want to cover myself as best as possible just in case.

Luke

[vintagetoppsguy]

If it were me, I would purchase insurance for the purchase price. It really doesn't benefit the seller and it protects you in case of loss. With postage, insurance and delivery confirmation, you should only be out of pocket about $5. A cheap lesson learned in my opinion.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

He said he feels the card is genuine and wanted me to get an opinion of someone local who could hold the card and look at it closely.

I'd decline to follow that suggestion. Let him go find a local expert and figure it out himself. The card is clearly bad.


Bill