Input requested for Photos, Premiums? Satchel, Feller, Ruth

[D. Bergin]

#3. Bob Feller. Looks to be a semi-glossy type real photo. Cardstock type stock.

Sized. About 7 3/4" x 10 7/8" inches.

Possibly from the 1938 season or somewhere thereabouts.


#4. Babe Ruth eating Quaker Puffed Wheat. Another odd piece. May be nothing more then a really old run-off, I don't know. I peeled it off an old make-shift backing board. Matt type finish.

Looks like a real photo at first glance but under magnification it has the appearance of a wire photo process with some primitive color photo process mixed in.

Sized. About 8 1/2" x 6 3/4" inches.

[Scott Garner]

FWIW, I believe that the Bob Feller image is from 1936. I own the exact image in an original B/W photo. I had Feller sign it a few years ago and he indicated that it was from his rookie season 1936. I asked him if he remembered what stadium it was shot in and he said he wasn't sure.
Good luck on getting more info from other members.

[ElCabron]

They look like fakes to me. Artificially aged to look old. Sorry.

-Ryan

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by NoizeBringer

They look like fakes to me. Artificially aged to look old. Sorry.

-Ryan

Yep...run a black light test on them.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Yep...run a black light test on them.

Just did. Probably should have done that first. They are late 40's or newer according to the blacklight. I still think they are in the earlier part of that timeline. Probably older reprints.

I guess it's about as expected. My first instinct was they weren't anything significant. Just wanted make sure nobody recognized them as something else before I grouped them together in a lot.

Thanks.

- Dave

[Exhibitman]

The feel of the stock alone isn't going to tell the story. I own a picture from 1941 with a matte, almost card stock like textured finish paper that I know for certain it is genuine and from the era because I got it from the original archiver and it has the original stamps on it. I've also owned various movie stills on a similar textured paper that I could definitely date to the 1920s because they were autographed (and in some cases dated) by the silent film stars depicted and I got them from the estate of the recipient, who was a make-up artist for the movies in the era. Also, there were many publicity photos made by various entities that weren't necessarily on "standard" glossy photo paper; the ones that come to mind most readily are the H815 Adam Hats pieces, which are on a very heavy creamy (now) stock with a matte finish that feel a lot like cards.

[GKreindler]

Dave,

Age aside, the Feller shot is DEFINITELY from Yankee Stadium. And most likely, if we're going by the uniform alone, it should be from '37. Apparently, though the uniforms from '36 were very similar, the socks had only two stripes as opposed to the three seen here.

Graig

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by NoizeBringer

They look like fakes to me. Artificially aged to look old. Sorry.

-Ryan

I don't think so. They might be restrikes or reprints of some sort from the era, but there is nothing artificially aged about them. Maybe not the exact year published, but somewhere in the ballpark. The scanner does seem to exaggerate the cream colors on some of them a bit (it never seems to pick up off shades of white, exactly).

They came directly out of a sports reporters collection. There was plenty of later generation photos mixed in with original press photos, wire photos, etc.., but no trickery and all vintage. I was pulling stuff off of deteriorating old photo album pages, and off old mount boards they were attached to with water-soluble glue.

I'm sure the reporter could have made them up himself from the originals for reference. The card stock they are on is what makes me wonder if any of them is a known premium or giveaway of some sort.

My feeling is that none of them were made any later then the early 1950's if they do happen to be re-strikes.