Its Coach's corner Auction time for September.

[J.McMurry]

I'm starting to wonder if their bidders aren't made up solely of dirty dealers who plan to resale to dupes?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by J.McMurry

I'm starting to wonder if their bidders aren't made up solely of dirty dealers who plan to resale to dupes?

There are a few resellers of CC crap out there. You can be sure of that.

[FUBAR]

I agree, i've seen some of it for sale displayed proudly with the cert!

[GrayGhost]

coach's corner and STAT are both on the unacceptable ebay authenticator list that I saw today, but that stuff is still up there.

[Bilko G]

Im just curious....

If most of the stuff they sell is so obviously fake (which i believe it is as well), how the heck have they been able to stay in business for so long? Surely, with the thousands and thousands of dollars that change hands from their auctions and all the internet posts about this company, surely they have been investigated by the FBI by now? How does a place like this, where hundreds (if not thousands) of people who are associated in this hobby, believe they are so crooked by selling fake vintage material (for thousands of dollars), not been taken down by the FBI?

[GrayGhost]

That is a VERY good question. Perhaps noboby has "come forward" with a formal complaint? perhaps, the FBI doesn't think its "big enough" or the PA Attorney General doesn't want to investigate.

Some of the fakes look pretty good, but still are bad, some like the Johnson Ball I linked earlier, and all the "signed softballs" they had, are just awful. Something has to happen tho, because like all the other fakes/forgeries, it hurts the ability of people to sell legit things, as people think they are "overpaying" for the legit ones, as it relates to some of the prices CC gets.

[iggyman]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

That is a VERY good question. Perhaps noboby has "come forward" with a formal complaint? perhaps, the FBI doesn't think its "big enough" or the PA Attorney General doesn't want to investigate.

This is totally unrelated to "Roaches Corner"..... but just to make a point; here is a small time roach who got caught.

http://citizensvoice.com/news/feds-c...ealer-1.996348

Lovely Day...

[J.McMurry]

I think the FBI has to have evidence that CC is either knowingly buying fake items from the forger,or they themselves are creating the forgeries for resale, in order to nail them.

So far it's been nothing but "Authenticated by Chris Morales", and "The guys at STAT says it's real", while CM and STAT say "in our OPINION it's real".

I think the key to nailing CC is to obtain a list of their consignors matched with their auctions from the past few years.

[GrayGhost]

I think, hunch, they do a lot of their forgeries themselves. How does one obtain a list of their consignors, without some sort of legal document requiring that to be produced? it really is sad, because they get SOMETHING for all their junk, and a lot is prob recycled by unscrupulous scumbags.

[Rickyy]

Wow that Hack Wilson autograph literally made me "hack"

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

There are a few resellers of CC crap out there. You can be sure of that.

Case in point....

Take a look at this fifteen hundred dollar piece of gahbage....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mordecai-Brown-C...item4aa44e898a

I'm surprised that ebay allows it to remain up, as it's clearly STAT Authenticated. What an absolute joke that one is.