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1. Barry Bonds
2. Ken Griffey Jr. 3. Albert Pujols |
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Tony -
Good call on Al Oliver - that guy was amazing in Wrigley. Everytime he came to the plate, you knew he was going to get a hit... Take Care, Geno |
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Greatest player I ever saw (career) Mickey Mantle
Greatest performance for one game ever: Jack Morris' 10 shutout innings in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series. |
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Best I ever saw on TV: Nolan Ryan
Best I ever saw in person: Pete Rose Honorable Mention: George Brett. Gad, I hated that guy in 1976-81.
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I saw Bob Gibson in 1968 at Shea Stadium. Unbelievable.
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I have to agree with many of the previous posters - definitely Pedro Martinez. He might be the greatest pitcher in MLB history.
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I've seen many greats, so I am sure I am slighting a lot of players.....
but for me (with an admitted personal bias) - there was no greater than Johnny Bench.
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BO - was fantastic to watch - wish he played long enough to get more credit.
Bonds early years was a great 5 tools player, it was fun living in Pittsburgh in the late 80s. King Albert has my attention now, such great on and off the field. |
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Hmm...for pure talent Puljos and Maddux and Carlton and Schmidt.
For pure toughness and a player who played hard...Mickey Hatcher. He played with limited talent (although more than 99.9 % of the population) but with great drive and desire and intelligence. That makes a great player to me. Mickey Hatcher was standing on second when a small looping single was hit into left. As he rounded third, he started shouting "Cut, Cut" and the third baseman thinking it was the pitcher calling it, cut the throw off and Hatcher scored. SMART baseball. "I would rather be the worst player in the major leagues than never play in the majors at all" --Mickey Hatcher |
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I'm still relatively young at 31 and from Cleveland, so I might seem a bit biased. I've seen alot of games. Frank Thomas was great. Ripken was my all time favorite, but not the greatest. Seen all the modern greats come in and out of Cleveland to play against the Indians. Used to go to at least 1 Pirates game a year back in the late 80's-early 90's. Bonds and the early 90's Bucs were fun to watch.. All that being said, honestly, watching the mid-90's Indians teams were more that I could've ever asked for. Well, a World Series Championship would've been nice. Manny, Thome, Murray, the Alomar Brothers, Lofton, Vizquel, Winfield, Matt Williams and Jeff Kent(half-season), Albert Belle, Hershiser, Dennis Martinez, Jack Morris, this could go on forever..
Anyways, Robbie Alomar was just beautiful to watch play, and probably the best all-around player. Vizquel and Alomar as a combo might be the greatest defensive duo ever. I also wanna add, as brain dead as Manny can be at times, you just can't beat watching him bat in the play-offs(especially when he was with Boston). It didn't matter what count, what pitch, what game situation, nothing fazed the guy. I guess it was just his idiocy, and he didn't know any better, but you just couldn't put any pressure on the guy. I honestly think the guy could be swinging a broomstick, while you have a defense full of naked centerfolds shooting guns at him, and pitching a golf ball at 100 mph, he'd still get a hit. |
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Probably Mantle...one of my favorites.
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The answer is Bonds plain and simple. Cheating has and always will be part of baseball. We dont seem to hold it against all the greenie users. We talk about the Prewar guys like their immortals, when they only played against a percentage of the countries best athletes and essentially none from around the world. Also I saw Bonds play A LOT in Pittsburgh and to say that pitchers didnt fear him then is total B.S. revisionist crap. He was a jerk yes did he do roids yes. but guess what the rules stated you couldn't use them but also gave no punishment for using them so was it even really cheating? Where do you draw that line? Andro? Creatine? Protien Powder? Hell lifting in general all are performance enhancing that's why their done. I would hold it against Bonds if I did not think the overwhelming majority of Pros including many Good guys, see Andy Pettite, used the stuff. Should kids idolize him hell no, they shouldn't have before he ever injected anything, but the guy could flat out play. And you can even make the argument he was a better player, all around player that is, before he bulked up.
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Barry-Fair point. I have heard people call him one of the greatest pitchers ever and in my mind that is just plain wrong.
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There were some things Ryan could do better than anyone who ever lived, but assessing his overall career I would say he was not as outstanding as some of his peers.
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(1) Bonds
(2) Pujols (3) Pedro Martinez (at his peak) Barry was a juicer, but the problem is that if you grew up in the last 20 years or so, pretty much every good player could be suspected of juicing. I know Thomas, Griffey, Jeter are probably not, but you never know. The entire era is tainted. |
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since 1963 when i started watching these were the best in their prime years
koufax marichal gibson palmer seaver were the best pitchers best reliever gossage best 1 inning "saver" mariano mays clemente aaron in the outfield brooks ozzie morgan and mattingly around the infield bench behind the plate if you put this team on the field for the best 5 years of each ones career its hard to picture them ever losing a game |
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Bill James rates Mantle the 6th best player ever, despite those "low" RBIs. One reason his totals were relatively low, aside from injuries keeping down his games played, was the incredible number of walks he drew.
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Maybe the point was made, but Ryan did not win a Cy Young.
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