lawyers guns and money time?

[iggyman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

causing damage to the reputation and the past financial successes of our industry.

This is a joke right??? What could possibly damage our hobby-"industry"? Come on now.....within the past few years we've had the major auction house in the hobby involved in shill bidding and other shenanigans......

we've had a big-time dealer caught in the act of trimming and re-slabbing cards......

we've had what was thought of as the premier T206 website discredited as nothing but a scam.....

we've had a recession and a few bounces......

both "industry" leading grading services have clear conflicts of interests......

reprints can be purchased on eBay by the barrel-full.......

PSA has been rumored to be near bankruptcy.....

the premier card in the hobby has a questionable background.....

some cards in the hobby might have been accumulated via questionable means....

Cardboard can now be garnished by doctors with no medical degree required....

'52 Mantle rookie cards reside in fake but darn-near real PSA holders....

Roaches Corner still has a website.......etc, etc, etc.


Yet, I still can't find an Old Judge for $25 dollars, our hobby-industry keeps right on chugging; Cho-Cho.....Chag-a Chag-a Chag-a.....Cho-Cho!!!

Lovely Day...

[calvindog]

In the end, all any of the guys in any meeting in Baltimore care about is how does issue x affect their money. I don't care if Mr. Y is getting indicted or if anyone caught the "gypsies" that ripped off Lionel Carter, all any of them care about is how something affects their finances. They may try to make it appear as if this is an industry-wide issue but in reality what they really are saying is "I may have a problem, can we all get together and figure out how to help me?"

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

In the end, all any of the guys in any meeting in Baltimore care about is how does issue x affect their money. I don't care if Mr. Y is getting indicted or if anyone caught the "gypsies" that ripped off Lionel Carter, all any of them care about is how something affects their finances. They may try to make it appear as if this is an industry-wide issue but in reality what they really are saying is "I may have a problem, can we all get together and figure out how to help me?"

From my phone calls this morning this does indeed seem to be a prevailing thought. It seems as though any time someone says "how may I help you?" they really mean "how may I help myself?" .....

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by iggyman

This is a joke right??? What could possibly damage our hobby-"industry"? Come on now.....within the past few years we've had the major auction house in the hobby involved in shill bidding and other shenanigans......

we've had a big-time dealer caught in the act of trimming and re-slabbing cards......

we've had what was thought of as the premier T206 website discredited as nothing but a scam.....

we've had a recession and a few bounces......

both "industry" leading grading services have clear conflicts of interests......

reprints can be purchased on eBay by the barrel-full.......

PSA has been rumored to be near bankruptcy.....

the premier card in the hobby has a questionable background.....

some cards in the hobby might have been accumulated via questionable means....

Cardboard can now be garnished by doctors with no medical degree required....

'52 Mantle rookie cards reside in fake but darn-near real PSA holders....

Roaches Corner still has a website.......etc, etc, etc.


Yet, I still can't find an Old Judge for $25 dollars, our hobby-industry keeps right on chugging; Cho-Cho.....Chag-a Chag-a Chag-a.....Cho-Cho!!!

Lovely Day...

our hobby in a nutshell

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by iggyman

the premier card in the hobby has a questionable background.....

In comparison to every thing else you've listed, I'd say that card's lookin' pretty good now

[M's_Fan]

The message is really vague and it could mean anything or nothing.

[Exhibitman]

It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

I thought it was more like a walking shadow.