Bccg

[calvindog]

I'm lost here. I just got an oversized R309-2 Greenberg back from them. IS BCCG "Becket Grading Services?" The card received a 1.5 grade which I thought was pretty low (see below). And if not, what is BVG? Are there three different Beckett grading services, BVG, BCCG and BGS?

[Leon]

I think BVG is their vintage grading, BGS is their new card grading and the oft maligned BCCG is for mass merchants. Here is where we discussed this a few months ago..

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...highlight=bccg

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'm lost here. I just got an oversized R309-2 Greenberg back from them. IS BCCG "Becket Grading Services?" The card received a 1.5 grade which I thought was pretty low (see below). And if not, what is BVG? Are there three different Beckett grading services, BVG, BCCG and BGS?

You are correct. There are 3 distinct services available from Beckett.

BGS - Beckett's Grading Service
BVG - Beckett's Vintage Grading
BCCG - Beckett's Collector's Club Grading

BCCG does NOT use the standard 1 - 10 grading range. Their grades are 5 - 10 only, with BCCG 5 being "Poor or Better."

It's a dumb idea, but apparently makes them money and they don't seem inclined to change it.

We have rehashed it out here many times.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'm lost here. I just got an oversized R309-2 Greenberg back from them.

Jeff - great card - one of my favorites. Because of the thin paper stock, the issue is very prone to damage. If that's the one that was auctioned on eBay a few months back, I recall looking at and an thinking it potentially had some condition issues, though looking at your scan, I am not reminded of what they were.

The oversized holders were only produced with "BGS" on them. See here on an earlier issue:

[calvindog]

Ahh...that makes sense now.

[hunterdutchess]

I bought a few BCCG 9's for my son. They were a 93 sp Jeter and a 94 sp Rodriguez. We crossed them over to BGS and they came back Jeter 8 and A-Rod 8.5 so we paid rather lower than what those grades whould have cost us but with the grading fee's we broke even. It's almost like gambling.

[calvindog]

As big as a pizza box but the only game in town when it comes to issues this size:

[FUBAR]

BVG hasn't always existed, so some earlier vintage cards are in BGS holders.

I believe BVG was created because you couldn't grade a vintage card with the same criteria as the new shiny cards. So they created new rules pertaining to vintage cards only.

I could be wrong, but that is how i remember Beckett's explanation at the time....