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Old 07-21-2010, 10:20 PM
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Resurrecting an old thread (the last post before this one is almost ten months old) to ask if there's any kind of census identifying the owners/locations of all known T206 Wagners. With such an important card, that would go a long way towards keeping track of the real ones.

Cards that are already "slabbed" can be identified by the unique serial number on their labels... though I wonder if such T206 Wagners have been cracked out of their "slab" for a hopeful upgrade.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:25 PM
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Frank, i was thinking the font was the giveaway fro me. As far as I know the first letter is a different size then the rest and these ones all look the same..

Burning is usually an indication as well as it is usually done to make it look old.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:34 PM
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It's a shame that people don't take better care of their reprints.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:37 PM
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Maybe it can be restored into a FRANKENWAGNER!
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yes, a Frankenwagner!!!
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It survived the fire test, it's real.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:25 AM
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Resurrecting an old thread (the last post before this one is almost ten months old) to ask if there's any kind of census identifying the owners/locations of all known T206 Wagners. With such an important card, that would go a long way towards keeping track of the real ones.

Cards that are already "slabbed" can be identified by the unique serial number on their labels... though I wonder if such T206 Wagners have been cracked out of their "slab" for a hopeful upgrade.
Gary - one of the major auction houses in the past year (Legendary?) had a section in their catalog which traced the ownership of the best condition T206 Wagners and where they are now, much to the dismay of a few of the current owners.
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Resurrecting an old thread (the last post before this one is almost ten months old) to ask if there's any kind of census identifying the owners/locations of all known T206 Wagners. With such an important card, that would go a long way towards keeping track of the real ones.

Cards that are already "slabbed" can be identified by the unique serial number on their labels... though I wonder if such T206 Wagners have been cracked out of their "slab" for a hopeful upgrade.


Gary,

As Matt alluded to, many of the people who currently own T206 Wagners would prefer that everyone in the world NOT know about their ownership.
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It was at the 2008 Net54 dinner in Chicago that an auction house talked about all the different Wagners. I believe a few of those Wagners he was referring to belonged to guys who were sitting in the room.
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It was at the 2008 Net54 dinner in Chicago that an auction house talked about all the different Wagners. I believe a few of those Wagners he was referring to belonged to guys who were sitting in the room.
This is correct. Doug Allen, with Legendary, went over ownership of many/most of the top Wagners in the hobby, while giving a speech at the Net54 dinner in 2008. He had permission and approval of most of the owners. Many of the owners were in the room at the time. Except for that litttle bit of uncomfortable feeling (at least one owner wasn't happy about the "surprise" outing) it was a really nice speech.
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Here is a link to the list. (The "Holy Grail" - An Explanation of Hierarchy)

http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=86978
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Here is a link to the list. (The "Holy Grail" - An Explanation of Hierarchy)

http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=86978
Thanks Aaron - that is what I was referring to.
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#8 - Burdick example - housed at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York City, since the late 1950s - the card has an EX obverse, and is still adhered to an album page (making the reverse naturally suspect).
Seeing the reference to the Burdick Wagner at the Met made me think- has any Burdick card from the Met collection been removed from the albums, and the paste attempted to be removed? I'm curious if the museum or anyone has attempted this with any of the Burdick cards at the Met.
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