What would you do in this instance please

[dstudeba]

I only use signature confirmation after I had 2 deals in one week go bad where the card never came but the seller showed me USPS delivery confirmation that I received it. I don't trust delivery confirmation at all.

[E93]

I would give him 48 hours to Paypal the money or file a police report and file a suit in small claims court. He could be on the hook for mail fraud, which is pretty serious. The lawyers here will know better than I.
JimB

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

I only use signature confirmation after I had 2 deals in one week go bad where the card never came but the seller showed me USPS delivery confirmation that I received it. I don't trust delivery confirmation at all.

You've got that right. All delivery confirmation says is that it was delivered "somewhere". Not necessarily to the address that it was intended for.

r/
Frank

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T's please

You've got that right. All delivery confirmation says is that it was delivered "somewhere". Not necessarily to the address that it was intended for.

r/
Frank

Doesn't matter if it protects you with ebay and paypal and I think it does.

[chris122868]

Over $180?

This kind of stuff happened a lot less when sellers did not HAVE to accept paypal as a form of payment. Ah...the good ol' days of checks and money orders.

eBay strongly urges sellers to use some form of online delivery verification for this very reason. Live and learn. ( SARCASIM)
Since this is only over $180.00 maybe you wouldn't mind paying him since it's not a big deal. CHRIS

[chris122868]

Sorry didn't know how to use quote !!!!! BOTN !!!!!!!!

[glchen]

These days you almost need to have signature confirmation these days from both sides , buyer and seller. I reently purchased a 1935 Goudey Ruth from ebay. USPS delivery confirmation said that the package was delivered to me. No package in my mailbox. The very next business day (a Monday), I just happened to bump into my postman as he was delivering the mail. I told him that I was missing a package, and asked if I could take a quick peak into the mail station to see if it was there. (It's a community mailbox that has something like 14 boxes there for the entire block.) And there was my package, in the mailbox right above the mine. So basically, the postman (and it wasn't my regular one) had put my package in the wrong mailbox. He told me that next time this happens, I should just call the local post office and tell them to track down my package. I'm kind of dubious about that.

I was particularly concerned because my address starts with 2202, and in the same mail station as my mailbox, another person also at 2202, but a different street, so I get the other person's mail all of time. And the thing here was that the other person's house was for sale, so for all I knew the person didn't even live there anymore, and wouldn't be checking their mail for a long time. And since USPS showed the package as delivered, I wouldn't have any recourse. So going forward, I think Signature Confirmation is the way to go on any expensive items.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Doesn't matter if it protects you with ebay and paypal and I think it does.

Think again Peter. I mentioned this a couple months ago of a delivery that was intended for me. The seller had delivery confirmation and it showed that it was delivered. Problem was is that I had another package (delivery confirmation as well) that was delivered to me 4 minutes before the other package was delivered. I showed PayPal a copy of the delivery that I did in fact receive and filed a claim on the package that I didn't. Not sure if it was addressed correctly or if the USPS made a mistake. Either way I was given my refund although the seller had delivery confirmation.

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Frank

[Peter_Spaeth]

How is this for serendipity or whatever, in light of my prior post. My neighbor just rang my bell -- a package for me with delivery confirmation was delivered earlier today to his house instead of mine. My vitamins are now here safe and sound.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How is this for serendipity or whatever, in light of my prior post. My neighbor just rang my bell -- a package for me with delivery confirmation was delivered earlier today to his house instead of mine. My vitamins are now here safe and sound.

Vitamins. Sure.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

How is this for serendipity or whatever, in light of my prior post. My neighbor just rang my bell -- a package for me with delivery confirmation was delivered earlier today to his house instead of mine. My vitamins are now here safe and sound.

Holy crap, do you live on my street.

[magic1313]

I am a little surprised about the lack of due diligence done prior to refunding the money. If it was me I would have been on the phone with the post office trying to track down the package before I gave the refund. I apologize if you did do the proper research before refunding the money but it sounds like you just took the buyers word for it. With all of the widespread issues with ebay and online scammers in general I find it a little unusual that you just took the sellers word. I hate to sound harsh but I don't think, realistically, there is not much you can do, except learn from the situation so you can prevent it from happening again.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

I only use signature confirmation after I had 2 deals in one week go bad where the card never came but the seller showed me USPS delivery confirmation that I received it. I don't trust delivery confirmation at all.

Delivery confirmation doesn't mean squat. How does my item get scanned in at noon on Friday as delivered and then get delivered on Saturday? I will request signature confirmation on all high dollar items I win from here on out.

[iggyman]

Delivery confirmation is pretty much worthless from a buyers perspective. Just because the mail-person-dude scanned the package, does not mean he/she delivered it to the right address. From a sellers perspective its worth its weight in gold, only because it protects the sellers in a dispute with paypal (as long as the buyer does not get a credit card involved; if they do, then nothing can help you.......not even Johnny Cochrane (RIP).

Lovely Day...

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by iggyman

Delivery confirmation is pretty much worthless from a buyers perspective. Just because the mail-person-dude scanned the package, does not mean he/she delivered it to the right address. From a sellers perspective its worth its weight in gold, only because it protects the sellers in a dispute with paypal (as long as the buyer does not get a credit card involved; if they do, then nothing can help you.......not even Johnny Cochrane (RIP).

Lovely Day...

Condolences to the Cochran family.

[autograf]

Delivery Confirmation and Signature Confirmation do nothing if the package isn't delivered...........if there's no scan and no signature and it's not ALSO INSURED, no $$ back to you. Just remember that. Delivery Confirmation is only that...something to confirm delivery. It's great when it works which I'm sure is 99.9999% of the time. If you're that .00001 person, you're screwed if you don't have it insured. Same thing on Sig Confirmation.