Do EXMT cards ever have creases?

Section103 · #1 07-12-2010, 08:03 PM

....they're all pretty much the same

6 Surface: Noticeable print spots. Minor color or focus imperfections. Minor border discoloration and color or focus imperfections. Minor wax stains or extremely subtle ink marks. Relatively solid gloss with minor scratches, but devoid of scuffing. Noticeable metallic print lines.
4 Surface: Heavy print spots. Hairline creases. Moderate color or focus imperfections. Moderate border discoloration. Moderate wax stains. Very light ink mark or tape stain. A good deal of gloss lost from surface. Very minor scuffing or an extremely subtle tear in the form of a touch of broken surface paper.

Hairline creases start at 4. With that said, Im reminded of the fact that lots of sellers on eBay use their own grading standards (same numbers, same abbreviations) which differ greatly from the standards.

Browncow75 · #2 07-12-2010, 08:20 PM

Depends on if PSA is grading them, as evident by some of the "iffy" grading standards theyve shown of late. Ive seen a PSA 6 1940 PB Joe Jax this weekend at a card show that would barely get a 3 at SGC normally. Hard to say tho.

Brandon

martyogelvie · #3 07-12-2010, 09:07 PM

EX cards shouldn't have creases much less EXMT.. jmo.

Bosox Blair · #4 07-12-2010, 09:49 PM

I'm not aware of any published grading standards anywhere that allow for creases on an EXMT card.

Frustrating experience, Bob.

Cheers,
Blair

ethicsprof · #5 07-12-2010, 10:03 PM

should have no creases.
unfortunately, many folks have their own grading standards which tend to err on the side of being much too high for what they're selling.
Bob, you said that sending them back, etc. is a bit of a pain--i'd say let it go, particularly since you and i are on the dinosaur side of life and love our peace.
best,
barry

Beatles Guy · #6 07-13-2010, 10:08 AM

The general rule I use (and most that I've dealt with use) is if there is any crease at all, no matter the size, it automatically knocks it down to VG.

E93 · #7 07-13-2010, 11:01 AM

About twelve years ago I got a PSA 6 on a card that I was sure was going to get an 8 or 9. Under magnification the corners are sharp and come to a point with no hint of wear or flaking. I was upset and had it reviewed at a show and they said there was an extremely minor wrinkle that accounted for the downgrade. All I could see under 10x loupe at the point indicated was what looked like a natural bump in the paper mulch. A year or two later I re-submitted it raw and got the same response. The PSA guy at the show said ex/mt 6 was the highest grade a card could get with a very slight wrinkle. They were certainly consistent.
JimB

tbob · #8 07-13-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethicsprof

should have no creases.
unfortunately, many folks have their own grading standards which tend to err on the side of being much too high for what their selling.
Bob, you said that sending them back, etc. is a bit of a pain--i'd say let it go, particularly since you and i are on the dinosaur side of life and love our peace.
best,
barry

Barry I think, as usual, that you are right. Another lesson learned. I guess in the future if I buy cards without scans I am going to have to specifically ask if the card has any creases and not rely on the fact they are described as EXMT. I have asked guys selling vintage baseball cards described as vg or vgex if the card has any creases or if it is just corner wear, etc., I guess I'll have to expand my questioning in the future.
Thanks for all the responses to my post, I appreciate it.
Bob

ethicsprof · #9 07-13-2010, 02:24 PM

glad to be of help, ole buddy.
i do love the cards but peace is mighty enticing!!
best,
barry

autograf · #10 07-13-2010, 02:45 PM

No creases on EX much less EXMT. I do note, however, that EYE APPEAL will sometimes cause a seller to give much more esteem to their cards than technical grade. Some VG cards look fantastic and I could see where someone would puff up a grade or two. Still.....no creases on EX or EXMT. I have had in the past a couple of PSA cards that were 5's that had paper loss on the back......does that count? Or different thread?

bbcard1 · #11 07-13-2010, 04:58 PM

That's easy! Depends on who is sending them to the grading company

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