Huggins & Scott have the Holy Grail

[buymycards]

I can't believe that BGS would grade this a 9. I'm looking at the photo on the large insert that came with the H&S catalog and I see nicks in 3 of the 4 corners, and light chipping on both vertical borders.

In my opinion this should be a 7 at best.

Rick

[packs]

This is good for the hobby. People are interested in baseball cards again and that means younger and younger kids will get involved. No one starts out collecting pre-war cards. But everyone starts out collecting the cards of their day. So in my opinion, this card will garner a whole new group of young people who may or may not continue their collecting endeavors.

As far as manufactured rarity, it's nothing new to the hobby. Look at the Lajoie Goudey.

[Orioles1954]

or George C. Miller Andrews or Butter Cream Ruth or U.S. Caramel Lindstrom or Maple Crispette Stengel or.......

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

or George C. Miller Andrews or Butter Cream Ruth or U.S. Caramel Lindstrom or Maple Crispette Stengel or.......

Sure, but in each case those players were legitimate established stars. Plus I am not sure how manufactured and scarce high dollars cards that no average collector, young or old can acquire will be good for the hobby long term. It is very good that it has cards and the hobby in the news again in a positive fashion but I am not sure how this is going to correlate to legions of new hobbyists. I hope I am wrong and again I don't blame Topps a bit for doing this.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Sure, but in each case those players were legitimate established stars. Plus I am not sure how manufactured and scarce high dollars cards that no average collector, young or old can acquire will be good for the hobby long term. It is very good that it has cards and the hobby in the news again in a positive fashion but I am not sure how this is going to correlate to legions of new hobbyists. I hope I am wrong and again I don't blame Topps a bit for doing this.

Average collectors, young or old aquire these cards through luck. Some do not sell them. The hobby shops near where I live do have legions of kids in there buying packs of cards.

By the time this card hits auction there will be less intrest and there will already be a new chase card out there.

I like this one:



Some random collector has it

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Matthew H

Average collectors, young or old aquire these cards through luck. Some do not sell them. The hobby shops near where I live do have legions of kids in there buying packs of cards.

By the time this card hits auction there will be less intrest and there will already be a new chase card out there.

The initial acquiree is by happenstance perhaps but not so much on down the line. Besides the math is not good that you are going to attract a lot of new collectors for chances at a card numbered to 1. If you do I am not sure they are going to be in it for the long haul.

Hey we all started collecting for some reason or another. I guess the speculative gambling angle is a good a reason as any.

If only those folks at Butter Cream and Goudey would have had the foresight to short print a card of a player with no major league track record yet, imagine what those would be worth.

BTW, Matthew nice card! Would love to own, but would never buy packs trying to pull it.

[prestigecollectibles]

Another contrived collectible. I wonder how all those 1 of 1 rare Michael Jordan cards are doing.

[tbob]

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If only those folks at Butter Cream and Goudey would have had the foresight to short print a card of a player with no major league track record yet, imagine what those would be worth.
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Like they did in the T207 set?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

or George C. Miller Andrews or Butter Cream Ruth or U.S. Caramel Lindstrom or Maple Crispette Stengel or.......

These are chase cards to collecting a set....Were they short printed? Heck yes, but I don't think any were touted from the mfg'er as 1 of 1. Also, I don't think this new card is being collected to finish a set. It is being collected purely for speculative reasons (by most) and there isn't anything at all wrong with that. It's just not the same kind of collecting we do.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Leon

These are chase cards to collecting a set....Were they short printed? Heck yes, but I don't think any were touted from the mfg'er as 1 of 1. Also, I don't think this new card is being collected to finish a set. It is being collected purely for speculative reasons (by most) and there isn't anything at all wrong with that. It's just not the same kind of collecting we do.

Absolutely, not really a relevant comparison at all.

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Absolutely, not really a relevant comparison at all.

I agree it's completely different, but let's not embrace the faulty notion that manufactured scarcity started within the last couple of decades. It's part of this hobby....albeit for different reasons.

[packs]

Collecting for a set or not, it's still a manufactured rarity. If you were collecting a Butter Cream set back in the day and knew a kid who had a Ruth, you probably would have traded your whole set for the one card. I'm not saying it was the 1/1 that they are today, but if you were serious about cards you would have known it was rare. And it was only rare because Butter Cream decided it would be.