Huggins & Scott have the Holy Grail

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by buymycards

I can't wait to see the grade. It looks like it might get a 6 or 7. Lots of edge wear.

Rick

I can't wait to read all the reasons why anyone bidding on this is a fool and how that money could be better spent on a myriad of other things.

[HRBAKER]

How many different "1 of 1" Strasburg autographed cards are there? Boy the card company (Topps) must lean back in their chair and ask themselves if there is any limit to the market manipulation possibilities.

[martyogelvie]

dammit..
that's not the Holy Grail..
that's the Holy CRAP!

[Leon]

It's really about the adrenaline rush of gambling. If we put it in perspective it's not as bad as saying it's collecting baseball cards. This is just my opinion from doing a bit of research. I don't collect new cards but there is more interest today than there has been in quite some time and that can't be bad for our segment. Hopefully, it gets younger collectors involved and eventually, they come to their senses and collect pre-war. best regards

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't collect new cards but there is more interest today than there has been in quite some time and that can't be bad for our segment.

Leon is correct and i would say modern cards haven't been as popular as they are right now, since the very early 1990's. There are a lot of high rollers in the modern market that is mainly (some very rich) men in their 20's to 50's and "busting" modern wax is a form of gambling for them that directly involves their favorite sport. Like a few mentioned already, having a strong modern market is definitely beneficial for the vintage market as eventually many of these new modern collectors at least will dabble a bit in the pre war market, if not becoming a hardcore vintage collector.

All card collecting is good, whatever it takes to get the youth of the US and Canada collecting any type of cards will eventually be beneficial to all the card markets, Pre-War, Vintage and Modern. I just don't understand why so many of the vintage/pre war guys have such a hatred against modern cards/collectors? You never see Modern collectors bashing vintage or pre war cards/collectors, they have nothing but respect for the history of card collecting. There are a lot of guys who do like pre war and modern as well, many on this very board i bet.

EDIT- Thought id bring to the attention of the board another very high profile modern auction. The Bryce Harper (Nats #1 pick overall this year) Superfractor. This is another modern card that i wouldn't be surprised to see hit $10K+ and get some national media attention. The card was pulled by your "average Joe" collector, which makes it even better if it sells really high, IMO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Bowman-Chro...#ht_500wt_1063

[barrysloate]

If these guys are busting open cases as a form of gambling, it's pretty unlikely they are going to stay in the hobby and develop into serious collectors. When they get bored looking for chase cards they will move on to something else.

[GrayGhost]

Weren't the same things said in another thread before about the Chrome Superfricker or whatever? Seems to me like a lot of repetition here.

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

If these guys are busting open cases as a form of gambling, it's pretty unlikely they are going to stay in the hobby and develop into serious collectors. When they get bored looking for chase cards they will move on to something else.

Or when the bottom drops out of the value.

This relates to something a couple people have stated in this thread - to the effect that any attention or drawing in of new collectors is a good thing.

Not true if they become disillusioned or feel cheated by the hobby.

In the late 1980s to early 90s, people were diving into the hobby...only to evacuate later and mostly never return. These people felt (rightly so) that the card companies had played them for fools. The promise or implied promise of profits was a lie. For a lot of these people, even the mention of baseball card collecting will cause a shudder and a bitter taste. Many of them don't even differentiate between the 80s/90s junk and the pre-war stuff that has always had good value and interest.

I think the inevitable collapse in value of an item like this which has grabbed the attention of the public is bound to be bad for the hobby.

Just my opinion...

Cheers,
Blair

[Teamsets4u]

Originally Posted by martyogelvie

dammit..
that's not the Holy Grail..
that's the Holy CRAP!

Got to agree with this

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

How many different "1 of 1" Strasburg autographed cards are there? Boy the card company (Topps) must lean back in their chair and ask themselves if there is any limit to the market manipulation possibilities.

There will be alot from various issues but they will not sell as well. If they produce "Topps Chrome" it will be the only comparable product.

The "Chrome" brand has been around long enough and is the highst regarded rookie card by modern card collectors.

[HRBAKER]

If they produce "Topps Chrome"

The only real question @ this point is how many different colors of it they are going to produce. (my apologies Peter)

[ChrisStufflestreet]

The funny thing...

if I were opening a pack of modern cards and saw that one, I'd see the name, think, "Okay" and keep on looking to see if I've gotten something that actually fills the empty slots in my binder.

This "1 of 1" BS really makes no impression upon me at all.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by ChrisStufflestreet

if I were opening a pack of modern cards and saw that one, I'd see the name, think, "Okay" and keep on looking to see if I've gotten something that actually fills the empty slots in my binder.

Me too, if I pulled this card I would be angry that I didn't pull another common for my binder. Haha (not that I collect this crap)

I agree with Leon though, This is good for all collectors. I'ts suprising to me how much more a card sells for with just one more collector intrested. I started a 34' Goudey set because I thought here's my chance to collect a set I have always wanted. Prices are low (never collected a complete set but love this one).

The cards that I bid on eBay sell for alot more than the ones I do not. Same condition, same card.

These modern card collectors have alot of money. I've seen collectors on youtube open 70,000 dollars worth of boxes in one sitting.

I just hope they stay on the modern side for awhile, let me finish my set dammit. I promise to go back to collecting random cards that I think look cool.

[FUBAR]

this is the one from ebay that reached a million then was pulled... i think it is anyways.. im glad FEE-bay is not making money off of it

[buymycards]

I can't believe that BGS would grade this a 9. I'm looking at the photo on the large insert that came with the H&S catalog and I see nicks in 3 of the 4 corners, and light chipping on both vertical borders.

In my opinion this should be a 7 at best.

Rick

[vintagewhitesox]

I thought this thread was about the Stanley Cup.
Bummer.

[E93]

Originally Posted by vintagewhitesox

I thought this thread was about the Stanley Cup.
Bummer.

What is a Stanley Cup?
JimB

[lharri3600]

yes, i can't wait to see the hammer price. with the potential of his arm not being the same ever. to bad the kid is hurt and i hope he fully recovers. enough said

[Delray Vintage]

Just heard strasbourg is having tommy john surgery so his career and his card value may be in doubt- I would not invest in any modern active player because of the uncertainty. I assume almost all are overhyped and way overvalued. Give me a Ty Cobb anytime.

[bbsports]

It was announced on ESPN that Stephen Strasburg needs Tommy John surgery, with a torn Ligament in his arm. Where do you think the price of his cards will go now?

[Doug]

Originally Posted by bbsports

It was announced on ESPN that Stephen Strasburg needs Tommy John surgery, with a torn Ligament in his arm. Where do you think the price of his cards will go now?

Heck they will probably go up as soon as enough people convince themselves that he will come back throwing 110 mph fastballs after the surgery.