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Old 07-05-2010, 01:42 PM
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Default Subtle Difference...

One subtle difference on the Lee - J'Ville SL Proof from the T210 is the Uniform. Same pose, but different uni...
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Old 07-10-2010, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: T206 Southern Leaguers and Joe Jackson Redux

Tim,
Great thread and tremendous job on researching the T206 Southern League players.
I have notes on these going back many years and have always believed there are more T206 Southern league players to be discovered.

Briefly, here is a breakdown:

Virginia League
Class C, 6 teams
Danville - 2 cards (King, Westlake)
Lynchburg - 2 cards (Hooker, Orth)
Norfolk - 2 cards (Otey, Seitz)
Portsmouth - 2 cards (Guiheen, McCauley)
Richmond - 2 cards (Lipe, Revelle)
Roanoke - 2 cards (Ryan, Shaughnessy)

So we have 6 teams and each team has 2 cards. Every team is represented evenly. Seems to make sense.

South Atlantic League
Class C, 8 teams
Augusta - 1 card (Coles)
Charleston - 2 cards (Foster, Paige)
Chattanooga - 0 cards
Columbia - 2 cards (Kiernan, Manion)
Columbus - 1 card (Helm)
Jacksonville - 2 cards (Mullaney, Violat)
Macon - 1 card (Lafitte)
Savannah - 1 card (Howard)

This distribution/selection does not make sense. Why not 2 cards per team
as established by the Virginia league (also a Class C league)?
There are 6 "missing" cards from this league. (1 from Augusta, 2 from Chattanooga, 1 from Columbus, 1 from Macon, 1 from Savannah).

Now factor in the 8 proof cards and you find the 2 "missing" players from Chattanooga! Coincidence?
I believe that the other 6 "missing" cards will be found one day.

The other breakdowns from the Texas league and Southern Association reveal similar "missing" cards based on cards distributed and the imbalance of known cards from team to team.
I show a total of 28 "missing" T206 Southern Leaguers (before the 8 proofs were discovered). And 1 of these missing cards is from New Orleans! Maybe Joe Jackson?

I believe that possibly due to poor sales the T206 Southern league cards were stopped in mid-production. Only 48 were distributed, but many others that existed in proof form were not issued. The T206 Southern League project was then moved to the T210 red border series which DOES include Joe Jackson, New Orleans.

Hope this makes some sense.
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Old 07-10-2010, 11:29 AM
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Thanks Art, what a great contribution you've just added to this thread. Very interesting theory.

Sincerely, Clayton
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Hi Art and thank you for posting.

The "proofs" are proof that other southern league cards were created but not printed for distribution. How many? I don't think we will ever know but I do believe it was more than the eight that were discovered.

Following the "two players for each team" trend there should be another image for Augusta, Columbus, Macon, and Savannah. (The two for Chattanooga were found with the proofs.)

Given the majority of the proofs were of Jacksonville and Montgomery players, two teams already well represented in the set, there could have been any number of additional images for each team.

Was Joe Jackson one of those images? I don't think so, but if he was it would have been as a Savannah player and a different image than his T210.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:21 PM
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Default Bumping A Great Thread........

I know there are some newer T206 collectors on the board and after reading through this thread I thought I'd bump it for the excellent content regarding the T206 Southern Leaguers.

Sincerely, Clayton

* Tim, again- amazing job on this !!!
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I know there are some newer T206 collectors on the board and after reading through this thread I thought I'd bump it for the excellent content regarding the T206 Southern Leaguers.

Sincerely, Clayton

* Tim, again- amazing job on this !!!
Clayton,

Thank you. I just read through the entire thread...better than the morning paper.

Tim - your content was superb. Amazing job!

Best,

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Tim,
Outstanding research!
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Clayton,

Thank you. I just read through the entire thread...better than the morning paper.

Tim - your content was superb. Amazing job!

Best,

Eric
No problem, this thread really helped me and I figured it would help others as well.

There are other great threads about T206's on the board, but this one has always been one of my favorites.

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