How would you react to a personal attack (by SGC)?

[wonkaticket]

Rob D. correct....another example..

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2008/198.html

[Peter_Spaeth]

I still don't understand why color would appear different under a loupe? Can someone explain?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I still don't understand why color would appear different under a loupe? Can someone explain?

it's bigger

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

it's bigger

Damn why didn't I think of that?

[cfc1909]

Correct me if I am wrong-SGC is willing to compensate you but they want a record of what you paid? So I believe they are stepping up to the plate.

Also if you truly believe this is a one of a kind, new factory cut brown Old Mill, I think you would not be selling but trying to get this added to the registry just like the Cycle Matty.
Instead it gets consigned to Goodwin where no one knows who the consignor is.

If SGC gives you any more than $100, they own the card as you were compensated.

If the card is truly brown, you don't need it labeled as so, didn't the Sid Smith bring brown money in a past Goodwin and was not labeled brown.

Once the card is under a loupe you can see it is brown-I think SGC has a loupe.

I am confused why it had to come to this, couldn't you have taken what SGC was offering and keep your card out of their holder as you know the card is brown. You can see this under a loupe?

I still don't understand why the card was never shown to any collectors. You both have been to my table at Philly with loads of wonderful cards and also to gatherings with collectors were everyone was showing unique & rare cards and talking brown Old Mill as a brown Reagan and a brown Revelle were present.

We all make mistakes, I think this can be labeled as a mistake and move on.

[danmckee]

Let it be known that dan mckee is calling bullshit on hank levy's post.


Bs!

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Let it be known that dan mckee is calling bullshit on hank levy's post.


Bs!

+1

[Brian Weisner]

Originally Posted by cfc1909

Correct me if I am wrong-SGC is willing to compensate you but they want a record of what you paid? So I believe they are stepping up to the plate.

Also if you truly believe this is a one of a kind, new factory cut brown Old Mill, I think you would not be selling but trying to get this added to the registry just like the Cycle Matty.
Instead it gets consigned to Goodwin where no one knows who the consignor is.

If SGC gives you any more than $100, they own the card as you were compensated.

If the card is truly brown, you don't need it labeled as so, didn't the Sid Smith bring brown money in a past Goodwin and was not labeled brown.

Once the card is under a loupe you can see it is brown-I think SGC has a loupe.

I am confused why it had to come to this, couldn't you have taken what SGC was offering and keep your card out of their holder as you know the card is brown. You can see this under a loupe?

I still don't understand why the card was never shown to any collectors. You both have been to my table at Philly with loads of wonderful cards and also to gatherings with collectors were everyone was showing unique & rare cards and talking brown Old Mill as a brown Reagan and a brown Revelle were present.

We all make mistakes, I think this can be labeled as a mistake and move on.

+1
Be well Brian

[chaddurbin]

with what the levys know and who they know about t206s it's just very hard to believe they paid brown OM money w/o consulting anybody for this particular card with so many red flags...and no records or memory to back up the claim.

some board members are pissed off and feel this charade to save face has gone on long enough. sgc can prolly check the cert to see who the original submitter was and trace it back?

[Abravefan11]

Riddle me this...

With the Levy's vast knowledge of T206's and the amazing amount of knowledge at their disposal via other collectors, how could they hold a TPG company responsible for this?

[jobermeyer2]

Originally Posted by hank_jp

WOW!

For those who questioned if I told Goodwin that REA passed on the item I have this to say. How many of you had a T206 card for many years and finally sent it in for grading only to be told that a card looking perfectly fine to you was trimmed? Then, when you either resubmitted it to the same or different grading company because you disagreed with the assesment, I'm sure that you included a note saying, "By the way XYZ Grading Company said this was trimmed. I just wanted you to know that." That is the way it works, right?

Um, so the answer is no, you didn't tell Goodwin that REA passed on it, right? I got lost, cuz you used a lot of words...

Jeff

[Peter_Spaeth]

Bought it, realized it wasn't brown, buried it for a good long while instead of showing it to a soul, tried to consign it taking advantage of the label, got called on it, tried to get sgc to buy it back? Just wondering, does that seems to fit the chronology better?

I just louped a bunch of cards, I didn't notice any changes in color. Whatever.

[HRBAKER]

I just louped a bunch of cards, I didn't notice any changes in color. Whatever.[I][/I]

Did you make them big enough?

[Bridwell]

Lots of collectors getting loupy?

[teetwoohsix]

This is an interesting thread to say the least.

Awhile back I had bought a Rockenfeld T206, and when it arrived I noticed when comparing it side by side to a Hannifan Old Mill that I had, the Rockenfeld appeared almost brown.

At the time, I didn't belong to Net54, but had discovered Trae's site T206.org and had contacted him. Finally I was able to figure out how to send a photo of it (I am not very computer savvy),, and Trae confirmed to me that what I had was not a Brown Old Mill. The strange thing though, was that the photo I took made the back look "blacker" than it appears in person.

Anyhow,, I have since learned that (thanks to TedZ) I will not find a Rockenfeld with a Brown Back.................and also, my Rockenfeld is factory cut, and not hand cut.

So I guess it fits under the catagory of "faded black",,,,,,,,,,,,,but I'm just wondering if this is the same type of color that confused the Levy's?

I am working with a new computer now, so if I can figure out how to show some scans of these I will (probably don't need to, I know all of you Veteran T206 collectors have seen what I'm talking about?)

Sincerely,Clayton