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Old 06-26-2010, 07:28 AM
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Is this about that Brown Old Mill southern leaguer T206 that was in the Goodwin auction and then pulled? It had appeared to me that SGC had mislabeled this card and it wasn't a Brown back after all, just a faded black back.

If this is what this thread is about, it was interesting to me that the Levy's took SGC's labeling as fact, when the card really didn't look brown on the back. It's also interesting that Goodwin accepted the consignment without questioning the SGC label either. You guys have so much trust in SGC that I guess nobody expects SGC to ever make a mistake. Has SGC admitted to an error? If so, can you show that the error was costly to you?
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Old 06-26-2010, 07:42 AM
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SGC makes mistakes. All of the 3pgs do. We all do...

When I see a 3pg mistake I'm amused, not infuriated. One of the few cards I have that is slabbed and not cracked out is an SGC mistake. My amusement is possible because I don't care about nor rely upon what a slip on a slab says.

Busting out a card is akin to removing the back of a Rolex, or breaking the hood seal on a Rolls Royce... I took an iPhone apart a few weeks ago, in a futile attempt to dry it out and get it working again. (A daughter ran it through the washer.) That was not successful, but I did enjoy the Youtube video's about how to try to do it.

What if.... 1- SGC had gotten it right, 2- you didn't rely on 3pg, 3- you'd left it in the holder, or you didn't collect 3pg cards. With any of those 'what if's' the problem would not exist.

Having said all of that, to your question. You're the son. Let your Dad deal with it. I'd be annoyed that someone sent such emails to my Dad, but it isn't my place to do anything at all about it unless he asks for assistance. So I think you should stay out of it, not offer assistance, but be willing to assist if he does ask for it.
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Old 06-26-2010, 07:59 AM
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I tend to agree with what Ron said...I'd presume the card in question was purchased for what an ordinary SL old mill would sell for when it was purchased...that is unless the seller was touting it as an om brown back...and your dad was banking on that and paid a significant premium.

So then if this was the case...that a significant premium was paid...to me it's no different than seeing a card on ebay that one thinks is a rare error/variation...and pays a significant premium for it...in the hopes of a big payday...that turns out to be common...lesson learned and move on.

we all make mistakes.

These lenox/om brown back variations are very challenging to differentiate in some cases...and there should be no embarrassment or shame in making a mistake such as this...or in this case 2 people making the same mistake.

What's most important is the error was corrected...lesson learned.

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