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Old 06-21-2010, 09:14 AM
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The novelty of it is bound to wear off.


What???!!! Are you saying that you think Strasburg may actually LOSE a game at some point in his career?

What a doubter you are. I foresee 512 straight wins!
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:28 AM
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One of my colleagues heard I collected baseball cards and brought in from home two of his favorites. 1 was a 1966 Topps Mantle in G-VG condition. The other was a 1991/92 Donruss Elites Cal Ripken Certified Auto card. Guess which one is worth more? The Ripken by twice as much. When I told him this, he was dumbfounded. I tried to explain that the Mantle could be worth many hundreds or more if it were in better condition. But I have to agree with him that on some levels, the price disparity -- condition notwithstanding -- is a bit ridiculous.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:45 AM
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I think it is wonderful that there are collectors out there willing to pay exorbitant and even idiotic prices for brand new shiney cards. More power to them, at least they won't be bidding against me for pre-war stuff. Let them use their disposable income on bling.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:50 AM
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What a doubter you are. I foresee 512 straight wins!
In all honesty, even if he pulls off 512 straight wins, I don't see the card retaining it's value. Is there a card of Pujols that was worth over $10k when he started that is still worth that?
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:58 AM
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In all honesty, even if he pulls off 512 straight wins, I don't see the card retaining it's value. Is there a card of Pujols that was worth over $10k when he started that is still worth that?
I have no idea, but no one in my memory has had this amount of publicity BEFORE his first major league appearance. Maybe not since Brien Taylor or even David Clyde (and look how well those worked out.)

My favorite part is the way the media has approached the Nats "bringing him along slowly" just because he spent 2 months in the minors. That is a joke. He was the best pitcher on their staff since the first day of spring training. They kept him in the minors until after June 1 so that they would have an extra year before he can become a free agent. They weren't "bringing him along slowly." They were trading 2 months now for an extra year of lower pay 6-7 years from now!
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I have no idea, but no one in my memory has had this amount of publicity BEFORE his first major league appearance. Maybe not since Brien Taylor or even David Clyde (and look how well those worked out.)

My favorite part is the way the media has approached the Nats "bringing him along slowly" just because he spent 2 months in the minors. That is a joke. He was the best pitcher on their staff since the first day of spring training. They kept him in the minors until after June 1 so that they would have an extra year before he can become a free agent. They weren't "bringing him along slowly." They were trading 2 months now for an extra year of lower pay 6-7 years from now!
Agreed, 100%. I wonder if the union will fight this when the CBA expires. Could be really interesting/annoying.
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That's exactly why they kept him down, as a money saving move.

There's another rookie who is going gangbusters but not getting as much publicity- Carlos Santana. I never saw a rookie batting third in a major league line up right out of the minors. And last time I looked he was hitting .393 with power.

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If I were the guy who bought the Strasburg card for $16,000 dollars, I would buy a one way ticket to Washington D.C. and take the card to a car dealership and trade the card, straight up, for a $25,000 dollar car and then drive back home.

Why? Because I am pretty sure the car dealer could turn around and sell the card for a profit and the guy from Michigan will get more value and utility out of the car, over the next seven to 10 years, than he is going to get out of the Strasburg card.


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If I were the guy who bought the Strasburg card for $16,000 dollars, I would buy a one way ticket to Washington D.C. and take the card to a car dealership and trade the card, straight up, for a $25,000 dollar car and then drive back home.

Why? Because I am pretty sure the car dealer could turn around and sell the card for a profit and the guy from Michigan will get more value and utility out of the car, over the next seven to 10 years, than he is going to get out of the Strasburg card.


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Well the guy from Michigan, who bought the Strasburg superfractor for $16K is going for the old fliparoo. He has the super up for sale now and its already over $13, 000 on the first day

Wonder what type of profit he makes?

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Feedback of 4 now bidding it up in $200 increments... can anyone say more shill bidding going on?
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It is probably shill bidding.

plus, I guess Im just discouraged someone can actually afford that and such. Still, as others have said, whatever floats your boat and if you have the means, then by all rights, go for it.

No point furthering my already high BP and nerve quotient by arguing over this stupid card.haha.
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plus, I guess Im just discouraged someone can actually afford that and such.
Why?
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all you have to do is watch the Barrett Jackson car auction to know how much $$ guys have to spend on their hobbies....
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In all honesty, even if he pulls off 512 straight wins, I don't see the card retaining it's value. Is there a card of Pujols that was worth over $10k when he started that is still worth that?
Curious! Did Puljols have any 1 of 1 rookie cards in his day, if so what do they go for?
I think its great that a card can generate this kind of publicity & this kind of pricetag.
Not my cup of tea at all, but more power to the winning bidder, its his money.
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Anybody else notice the Jason Heyword Chrome card go for over 6K a couple weeks ago or so.

I also saw a Strasburg 1/1 Card from the same set............called a Red Parallel or something, sell for about 4.8K a week or two ago.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-STRASBUR...item4aa1c71e66


Why the disparity with the chrome superfractor thingy. I mean, a 1/1 is a 1/1............right?

It really is madness I think.
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Are there ANY examples of these types of cards (shiny, new, manufactured scarcity) that have gotten more valuable? I've been curious about this. Going back a decade or so, can anyone give any examples? It seems to me that if someone speculates on a prospect and nails it, they should get a big payday for it, but I'm pretty sure that's not at all how it works. Are there any stories of it working that way?

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I once witnessed a guy write a check for $1,000 for a lot of 100 Bret Saberhagen rookies, after he won his 2nd Cy Young award.
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I was hanging out in a card shop when Fernandomania was just cranking up and his card was going for about $5. Some blowhard walked into the shop and insisted on paying $25 for one.
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