1939 Playball Gehrig, 1934 Goudey Ruth, and other cards that never were

[PolarBear]

Just about any 50's Topps Musial card, 58, 57, and 58 in particular.

[Mr. Mitt]

Jeff... is this the website you're referring to?

http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/vi...do/pseudo.html

[PolarBear]

Awesome.

[henson1855]

Just a thought , maybe the Babe didn't want to appear on the '34 goudey set because of the "Lou Gehrig or Chuck Klein says" design? The lack of a Gehrig Playball card from '39 or even '40 is one I can't figure out , I am not sure when the '39 cards hit the market , but I would think even if it was after his retirement, they would still issue one . I think the issue with Ted Williams , Feller , Musial , maybe Jackie Robinson and probably several others from the early '50's was them selling their rights to either Topps or Bowman but not both.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by henson1855

JuI think the issue with Ted Williams , Feller , Musial , maybe Jackie Robinson and probably several others from the early '50's was them selling their rights to either Topps or Bowman but not both.

This is true. Also, Williams was in Korea and missed the 52 and 53 issues.

Still annoying though that all the stars aren't in a single issue until Topps bought out Bowman, and even then Musial is missing until 59.

[ChrisStufflestreet]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

This is true. Also, Williams was in Korea and missed the 52 and 53 issues.

Still annoying though that all the stars aren't in a single issue until Topps bought out Bowman, and even then Musial is missing until 59.

Musial's absence wasn't entirely a Topps/Bowman issue. While Musial was in Bowman sets through '53, he didn't appear in another Bowman set ('54 or '55) and didn't finally come to Topps until late in 1958. Aside from Red Heart and Red Man, Musial was largely gone from the major baseball sets for 5 years.

Williams was out of sets when he entered the service...but both companies were selective about that. While Whitey Ford was out of the 1952 sets due to his Army service...yet Willie Mays missed most of '52 and all of '53 to the Army but was in both Topps and Bowman sets in '52, as well as a 1953 Topps card.

[brett]

Originally Posted by henson1855

Just a thought , maybe the Babe didn't want to appear on the '34 goudey set because of the "Lou Gehrig or Chuck Klein says" design?

The actual fact is that at the time Ruth and Gehrig absolutely HATED each other and there was no way Babe was going to have a card in a "Lou Gehrig" set. What I can't figure out is why Gehrig didn't have a '35 Goudey or beyond. Unless he had bad dealings with Goudey over his '34 set or signed an exclusive elsewhere it just doesn't make sense.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by brett

The actual fact is that at the time Ruth and Gehrig absolutely HATED each other and there was no way Babe was going to have a card in a "Lou Gehrig" set. What I can't figure out is why Gehrig didn't have a '35 Goudey or beyond. Unless he had bad dealings with Goudey over his '34 set or signed an exclusive elsewhere it just doesn't make sense.

Brett is there any actual credible evidence to your statement or is it just your speculation? It is well known that the two rarely spoke off the field BUT I have never heard anyone say that they HATED each other to the point that they wouldn't be pictured together or would refuse to be in a card set due to the others inclusion.

[Matt]

Rhett - to your point:

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Mr. Mitt

Jeff... is this the website you're referring to?

http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/vi...do/pseudo.html

Yessir! That's the one. Great handiwork