T207....indeed a strange set....let' talk about it ?

[Abravefan11]

I know little about this set but here's my favorite T207 that I own.



At the time that Hank was included in this set, like many others, he wasn't a big name in the professional game. The inclusion and exclusion of many players in this set is perplexing. Ted I think you may be onto something with your theory that this set was produced by someone other than ALC.

[frohme]

I was about to post on T207 for a couple of reasons, both with news, and further questions.

First off, though, the quest is finally at an end - T207 is complete.

With help, generosity, and support from so many others (as I've said several times before) and collaboration with other board member(s) who are oh sooooo close as well, the set is finally complete. Lots of room for improvement, and the Lewis no emblem is still not included, but those of you that have one - congrats!

Donnelly just arrived from the REA lot - many, many thanks Ron.



Some credits:

Rob D - I haven't forgotten what I owe you for your generosity.
Robert A, Bill T, Bob, et. al - thanks for the continued encouragement.
Ron R - Thanks for the help on the final push and all the discussion in between.
Tim N and Bob M - thanks for the VCBC articles which helped show just how dark and torturous a path it is/was.

As for the process - my first card was Miller (Pitt) from a David Festberg auction somewhere around 1991. I only got the bug for the set in 2006 after finding this site and reading up on the challenge. Being a Pirates collector, seeing a Donlin on eBay, and reading tbob's comments about it being one of the hardest cards - in his opinion - lit the fuse. The rest is, well, history.

If there's anything I'd say looking back, it would be that there have been a lot more quality cards come out over the last 18 months than in the prior 3 years. Still, finding any card in EX or better in this set can be a real bear. Some are still harder (much) than others.

--
Mike

[ethicsprof]

congrats,Mike!!
a great conquest.

Ted, i have 2 recruit little cigar packs in order to represent the 2 different factories. i only have one card, the Wolverton, placed between the 2 packs,
framed.

They've never drawn me like the 206s in part because they lack the lithographic aesthetics of the 206s. They do seem to exhibit an oddity akin to the C46s as you suggest. Worth investigating further methinks.

great work.

best,
barry

[Kawika]

Glory Hallelujah! That ImageEvent layout of T207s would make a grown man weep.
Well done, Mike!


My grandfather was Edward McDonald although at the time of this card he hadn't yet set foot in America, but was rather in the Irish Guard chasing the Mad Mullah across Palestine. He never mentioned any baseball playing.

[teetwoohsix]

Just wanted to say congrats Mike !!!

Sincerely,Clayton

[T205]

Mike,

Impressive! Congrats! I am having a hard time trying to put one team together (Boston Nationals) much less trying to take on the whole set. How hard was it to find the Lowdermilk?

[marcdelpercio]

Ted,
That's a very interesting observation about the similarities with the C46 set. There are some definite parallels. Obviously the color scheme is quite similar and not used by any other tobacco sets of the era. C46 is a minor league set that features many players with major league experience while the T207's are a major league set featuring many players that barely if ever made it out of the minors. The quirky write-ups on the backs also seem as if they could have been done by the same writer(s) with many similarities in phrasing.

There was a discussion recently about the lack of evidence that the C46's were actually released by Imperial Tobacco so that also adds to the mysteries. I have many examples of other Imperial Tobacco hockey, lacrosse, and non-sports cards released during these years and none share major similarities in print design with the C46's.

Congrats on completing your set Mike! The T207's are my all-time favorite set. I have been working on this set for 10 years (and have gotten several from you during that time ) and I still need about 50 more cards. So I definitely can appreciate your difficult achievement.