PSA Hates Me....and I'm not too fond in return

[ChiefBenderForever]

If the top one isn't a 3 many 4's I have seen need to be downgraded. Also really tough to tell any difference between 5,6, or 7 they all look the same. It really makes no sense, your best judgment is to buy what looks great to you and let your own eyes be the judge since each card and grade varies so much.

[Bridwell]

Hi Larry,

I'd say 3.5 on Bliss and the Marquard a 4 at best because of the paper loss on back. It is overgraded IMO.

Ron R

[teetwoohsix]

I don't know why, but I'm not suprised about this. Try SGC JP .

Clayton

[JP]

Well, to clear up any questions...

They both got PSA 1s. Yes, the top has some light creases, but eye appeal should count for something! The Old Mill is PERFECTLY centered and has no paper loss. How can it be a 1 while other cards that look like they've been crapped out of a dog can receive a 1?

In this particular instance, the grade doesn't affect me much as it isn't for a registry or any competition. These are for my back set. And since the Cycle 460 and Res Hindu I bought were both in PSA holders already, that is why I decided to get these PSA encapsulated. I use the submission service less and less each year.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by JP

They both got PSA 1s. Yes, the top has some light creases, but eye appeal should count for something!

Well, that's your issue - grading systems currently do not take "eye appeal" into account, other then the half grade bumps PSA offers. Whether that's how it should be or not is a topic of discussion, but that's how it is.

[JP]

Either way, creases considered, it's a 3 to me.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by JP

Either way, creases considered, it's a 3 to me.

With the creases (and the one through his eyeballs) I would rate it a 2 to 2.5. With that many spider veins I wouldn't give it a 3. But that is just me. Still a very nice card with nice eye appeal. As Matt stated, eye appeal generally doesn't go into a grade. I think SGC does take it into account when they look at the totality of the grade. In other words if they are about to give a card a 1, but then look at it and say "this just can't be a one, even though it has those issues", then I think they will make it a 1.5 or 2. I know that is not objective, but to me, it's the right way to do it. Also, I am not positive SGC does this but I think they do. regards

[t206hound]

From the back scan of the Old Mill, I can make out at least four distinct creases/wrinkles. I can't imagine a card with more than one very faint crease getting a 3. That said, the 1 is a pretty harsh grade based on the visual presentation. I'm definitely surprised it didn't get bumped up at least half a grade.

Originally Posted by JP

Either way, creases considered, it's a 3 to me.

[T206Collector]

3PG is needed for the nicer O'Leary. If it gets a 1, you now know that it has some serious wrinkles that are hard to see in a scan.

3PG is only needed for the beat up O'Leary to certify authenticity and no card doctoring.