I'm almost POSITIVE this card features Shoeless Joe...

[Peter_Spaeth]

All the folks who are convinced should be scrambling to buy up this card before the price goes through the roof. Are you?

[Abravefan11]

No Peter I wouldn't buy one before and I won't buy one now. With that said here's why I think the two photos are from the same play.



1) The photos as pointed out before were taken from two different angles. The bottom photo was further up the 3rd baseline than the top.

2) Lord's right hand, Lord's head, and Joe's right arm all have moved proportionally from one photo to the next. Joe's right leg, Lord's feet, and Joe's head have all maintained their position. Nothing is out of place from one photo to the next.

3) The angles surrounding the bag including the curvature on the home plate side are identical.

I know this isn't proper photo identification, but it's pretty compelling to me.

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

All the folks who are convinced should be scrambling to buy up this card before the price goes through the roof. Are you?

yeah me and my brother bought of these off Teletrade years ago for between $10-$12 a card. I have two fo these cards. I thought I only had one. My brother now owns 5 of these cards thanks to the hype from this thread. I believe he will be going to the local vintage card shop where he lives tomorrow and will buy the one or two that are for sale there also. I would personally like to thank Brett for making my brother and many others think they are going to be rich men very soon. He bets a PSA 7 or 8 of this card will sell for over $15,000 to the right buyer ! he sold one of his Cobbs last year to somone for about that price.
3 people contacted my brother either from the PSA boards or this one yesterday wanting to buy his cards, so the rush has already started I'm afraid. I thnk now the bet should be what seller or auction house will use Brett's "Joe Jackson" reference in trying to sell this common for a super premium.

[sportscardtheory]

Originally Posted by T206DK

yeah me and my brother bought of these off Teletrade years ago for between $10-$12 a card. I have two fo these cards. I thought I only had one. My brother now owns 5 of these cards thanks to the hype from this thread. I believe he will be going to the local vintage card shop where he lives tomorrow and will buy the one or two that are for sale there also. I would personally like to thank Brett for making my brother and many others think they are going to be rich men very soon. He bets a PSA 7 or 8 of this card will sell for over $15,000 to the right buyer ! he sold one of his Cobbs last year to somone for about that price.
3 people contacted my brother either from the PSA boards or this one yesterday wanting to buy his cards, so the rush has already started I'm afraid. I thnk now the bet should be what seller or auction house will use Brett's "Joe Jackson" reference in trying to sell this common for a super premium.

You are here trashing everyone who has anything positive to say about this situation, and your brother clearly is on board with it being Jackson. Plus you have two yourself. Are you upset that the value could increase because it's Jackson? Doe that suck for you? lol So why are you so angry about all this? Are you angry with your brother as well?

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

You are here trashing everyone who has anything positive to say about this situation, and your brother clearly is on board with it being Jackson. Plus you have two yourself. Are you upset that the value could increase because it's Jackson? Doe that suck for you? lol So why are you so angry about all this? Are you angry with your brother as well?

Yeah, Sportscard theory I trash everyone who has anything positive to say. I guess I will go the route of ChicagoT206 then since I have nothing to ad to your Joe Jackson fantasy. damn right I'm angry at my brother. We are polar opposites as far as collecting goes. He is in it for the money , I'm not, and never have been and ahave been pretty diehard about it since the night I saw the local card shop owner open case after case of Topps finest just to get the refractor cards so he could sell them at super inflated prices. You think one kid in town had a chance to buy a pack of those cards from him...NO! him and his greedy employees opened ever pack they could get there hands on. See there are these dealers and speculators out there that tend to make things up about cards in order to jack the value up. threads like this only serve to give them the ammo they need. We have provided them photos and documentation that their lazy asses would never had discovered. frankenstein is born , so to speak. what's positive about that. the only positive thing that happened here is someone named Brett found a card that has a picture of a guy sliding that resembles Shoeless Joe Jackson. It sparked a bunch of us to go to research to prove or disprove Brett's discovery. After 300+ posts Brett thinks he is right and cannot be swayed. He has a certain number of followers in his corner now too that will only see what they want to in these pictures that are posted. There are an equal number who think it's either inconcluisive and foolish to speculate or think it's not Jackson period. So that's about the sum of it for me.
oh, before you talk about not adding anything to the conversation....some of your posts exemplify it ! Why don't you just sit back and read instead of lobbing your insulting and inconsequential remarks at me. Your not going to change my mind , and I highly doubt your going to get a gang of Net54'ers to chase me off the board because you don't seem to like what I say sometimes.

[ChiefBenderForever]

Originally Posted by T206DK

Yeah, Sportscard theory I trash everyone who has anything positive to say. I guess I will go the route of ChicagoT206 then since I have nothing to ad to your Joe Jackson fantasy. damn right I'm angry at my brother. We are polar opposites as far as collecting goes. He is in it for the money , I'm not, and never have been and ahave been pretty diehard about it since the night I saw the local card shop owner open case after case of Topps finest just to get the refractor cards so he could sell them at super inflated prices. You think one kid in town had a chance to buy a pack of those cards from him...NO! him and his greedy employees opened ever pack they could get there hands on. See there are these dealers and speculators out there that tend to make things up about cards in order to jack the value up. threads like this only serve to give them the ammo they need. We have provided them photos and documentation that their lazy asses would never had discovered. frankenstein is born , so to speak. what's positive about that. the only positive thing that happened here is someone named Brett found a card that has a picture of a guy sliding that resembles Shoeless Joe Jackson. It sparked a bunch of us to go to research to prove or disprove Brett's discovery. After 300+ posts Brett thinks he is right and cannot be swayed. He has a certain number of followers in his corner now too that will only see what they want to in these pictures that are posted. There are an equal number who think it's either inconcluisive and foolish to speculate or think it's not Jackson period. So that's about the sum of it for me.
oh, before you talk about not adding anything to the conversation....some of your posts exemplify it ! Why don't you just sit back and read instead of lobbing your insulting and inconsequential remarks at me. Your not going to change my mind , and I highly doubt your going to get a gang of Net54'ers to chase me off the board because you don't seem to like what I say sometimes.

Are you mad because Jackson is on this card or because you and your brother have more copies than anyone else ?

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHarmonica

Are you mad because Jackson is on this card or because you and your brother have more copies than anyone else ?

why would I be mad that Jackson is on the card ? Contrary to your assumption, I would be glad. that would mean I have 2 more Jackson cards in my collection, and an interesting story as to how this was discovered, to be able to tell others. I'm not angry that my brother was advantageous and went and bought more of this card after I mentioned this to him. If he makes a lot of money off of them selling them that's up to him isn't it. I've shared my views with him many times on investing/speculating vs. collecting . He's not a member of this board , never has been, so the board members that contacted him sought him out. I gave noone his contact info. Johhnyharmonica what's your deal ? I don't get your angle at all here, or are you just being sarcastic ? some of you need to learn how to take criticism a little better. I could have come right out and agreed with the poster of this thread simply based on the picture he initilly showed. I didn't, so deal with it. the more evidence that is found that is compelling the more I will be convinced. that's how most people I know would approach something like this. they wouldn't just look at a few pics and say...." I now think it is definitely Jackson on the card". So now I am singled out as the roustabout, the troublemaker, the negative guy . whatever ! I never attacked the poster of this thread or made any comments defaming him or impuning his posts. I do apologize for my first bit of sarcasm , but I think I already did that 200 posts ago.

are you sure you aren't the one who is mad or jealous ? I don't get some of you guys on this board sometimes. Very petty and very high schoolish for people that are grown men, or at least purport to be.

[Leon]

Not that it matters a lot but put me in the camp of "it's probably him but not ready to call it definitive". I do think it's him from all evidence shown but I am just not ready to call it Jackson yet. Personally, I think it needs to be definitive for me to concede it being him. If I had to attribute my percentage of thinking it's him, I would go 75%.....I also don't think the value should sway a lot if it IS him....maybe 2x - 3x......it's not a good pic of him and he isn't mentioned....That's my half cent, without sarcasm.

[ChiefBenderForever]

Originally Posted by T206DK

why would I be mad that Jackson is on the card ? Contrary to your assumption, I would be glad. that would mean I have 2 more Jackson cards in my collection, and an interesting story as to how this was discovered, to be able to tell others. I'm not angry that my brother was advantageous and went and bought more of this card after I mentioned this to him. If he makes a lot of money off of them selling them that's up to him isn't it. I've shared my views with him many times on investing/speculating vs. collecting . He's not a member of this board , never has been, so the board members that contacted him sought him out. I gave noone his contact info. Johhnyharmonica what's your deal ? I don't get your angle at all here, or are you just being sarcastic ? some of you need to learn how to take criticism a little better. I could have come right out and agreed with the poster of this thread simply based on the picture he initilly showed. I didn't, so deal with it. the more evidence that is found that is compelling the more I will be convinced. that's how most people I know would approach something like this. they wouldn't just look at a few pics and say...." I now think it is definitely Jackson on the card". So now I am singled out as the roustabout, the troublemaker, the negative guy . whatever ! I never attacked the poster of this thread or made any comments defaming him or impuning his posts. I do apologize for my first bit of sarcasm , but I think I already did that 200 posts ago.

are you sure you aren't the one who is mad or jealous ? I don't get some of you guys on this board sometimes. Very petty and very high schoolish for people that are grown men, or at least purport to be.

I just asked you a question, and apologize if that was petty. I wish I was in high school !

[brett]

Originally Posted by T206DK

damn right I'm angry at my brother. We are polar opposites as far as collecting goes. He is in it for the money , I'm not, and never have been and ahave been pretty diehard about it since the night I saw the local card shop owner open case after case of Topps finest just to get the refractor cards so he could sell them at super inflated prices. You think one kid in town had a chance to buy a pack of those cards from him...NO!

Wow, sorry about your intense "brother" issues... I think you and he should try counceling before your differences destroy the family.