What is Your Opinion About Grading?

[Leon]

Alan- I removed your double posts. No worries...


For the record BVG Does offer an authentication ONLY service for cards that are not altered in any way and they don't receive a number. The only problem is that AUT cards now have a black mark against them because of perception and a lot/most folks don't know of their service, so if you get it done folks might think something is wrong with the card when it isn't. regards

[barrysloate]

With 58 votes in roughly 60% of the voters like grading a lot or somewhat; and about 40% don't care for it or hate it. Do these numbers tell us anything we didn't already know?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

With 58 votes in roughly 60% of the voters like grading a lot or somewhat; and about 40% don't care for it or hate it. Do these numbers tell us anything we didn't already know?

Actually, I read the votes as only about 10% of people really have a problem with it as a fundamental principle. The other 90% accept it, in either this or another format.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by Leon

Alan- I removed your double posts. No worries...


For the record BVG Does offer an authentication ONLY service for cards that are not altered in any way and they don't receive a number. The only problem is that AUT cards now have a black mark against them because of perception and a lot/most folks don't know of their service, so if you get it done folks might think something is wrong with the card when it isn't. regards

Leon,
It would be great if BVG could distinguish between an Altered Authentic and an Authentic that would normally warrant a numerical grade. I think the easiest way to do that since they have numerous altered cards already encased is to list the ones that could receive a numerical grade as "AUT -No Alteration".

Just my .02 cents

r/
Frank

[Leon]

Originally Posted by T's please

Leon,
It would be great if BVG could distinguish between an Altered Authentic and an Authentic that would normally warrant a numerical grade. I think the easiest way to do that since they have numerous altered cards already encased is to list the ones that could receive a numerical grade as "AUT -No Alteration".

Just my .02 cents

r/
Frank

Hey Frank
Since their Director of Grading is a good board member maybe he will take it to their committee and make that happen. I see no downside and ALL updside. Next time he and I go to lunch (we go every now and then) I will ask him, and a few of their other graders, about it. Great idea...

[ChiefBenderForever]

I think many traditional collectors had a hard time accepting the whole grading thing and some never will. I know I did, but after getting screwed on many overgraded raw cards and even a few fake ones I started to pick up graded examples. At first I cracked them all out, and many people still do. Atleast if you buy a graded card and crack it out you have a pretty good idea of what the card is supposed to be. It's sad you have to buy a graded card to crack it out because you can't trust a sellers description because everyones opinion varies and all the cheeseballs out there. Now it's gotten to the point where if you don't know the seller, and the card isn't graded you have to really wonder if there is something wrong with it, esp with pre war stuff. It is what it is.

[tedzan]

Nicely done, however, your 2nd Q....."I think TPG is important but it definitely needs an overhaul".....is somewhat ambiguous.
Although, it has garnered the highest response (36%), I would not view this response as a totally affirmative support for TPG.
Due to the operative wording in this question...."definitely needs overhaul".

If all those that responded to this one were further queried, I can bet you that a certain percentage of them would revise their
vote in favor of your #3 question.

Therefore, it is incorrect (and unrepresentative) to combine the current results of Q's #1 and #2 to suggest that 53% favor TPG.

At best, this poll indicates that there is a 50-50 split of those who favor TPG versus those who have serious problems with TPG,
or downright dislike TPG.


TED Z

[ChrisStufflestreet]

I can't vote. I don't collect TPG cards and would likely free any cards I do pick up from their plastic tombs, but I don't really hate the concept. Which could mean that I've learned to live with them, but that's not an entirely accurate assessment either.

It is what it is.

[barrysloate]

Ted- I agree with you that there is some ambiguity regarding choice #2. I'm sure some who voted feel TPG only needs a few small tweaks, while others think it is a big mess- and everything in between. I didn't put a great amount of thought into the questions and only wanted to conduct the poll as a general survey. What is clear to me is a large number of collectors are not completely satisfied with it. I only hope the graders are reading this (I'm sure they are) and continue to work to put out a better product.