My thoughts on these stupid grading posts

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by tedzan

But, I'll tell you this....your freakin attitude is what turns off a lot of us anti-graded guys. As, it is typical of a few
here that look down at collector's who talk about, or display ungraded cards on this forum (regardless of how nice
or rare those cards may be).
TED Z

This can just as easily be rewritten to :

But, I'll tell you this....your freakin attitude is what turns off a lot of us graded guys. As, it is typical of a few
here that look down at collector's who talk about, or display graded cards on this forum (regardless of how nice
or rare those cards may be).

Sorry that some of us intruded on your hobby and find that 3rd party grading and the internet assist us in our collecting efforts.

[Peter_Spaeth]

"I would be very satisfied with a service that marketed itself simply as:

(1) Being able to tell with 100% certainty that the card had not been altered in any way;"

I don't think that is realistic. While obvious alterations are easy to detect, sophisticated ones are not, and my own view is that the grading services don't have the time or the technology to unmask them all. They are not FBI crime labs, and there are people out there who are VERY good at what they do.

[kkkkandp]

I'm surprised no one jumped on that until now.

As I tell the guys at SGC every time I pick up my cards, they sure look pretty in those holders.

[rdixon1208]

I just started collecting pre-war cards about a year and a half ago. I always thought they were awesome, but couldn't afford them. One of my first purchases was a three card lot off the BST. I thought the SGC holders really made the cards look good, and I was curious to know how they would grade them, so I sent them in. They all came back altered. I could see the alterations after they sent them back, but I didn't notice them online or in hand before that. So I stopped buying raw cards. Since I buy graded cards, I read the threads about grading services to gain knowledge...which is what this forum is about to me.

So for those of you that can spot a fake a mile away and don't need the services of a grading company...I'm happy for you. Your experience does you a service. But I'm not as experienced as you. If there weren't grading companies doing what they do, I wouldn't be able to participate in this hobby.

All that being said, I do get tired of reading about the same subject at times. It's cool though because I have a solution. I just go to the next thread.

[HRBAKER]

As I stated bf I collect both raw and graded and will continue to. May very well have the raw graded at some point maybe not. I can tell you this, I have a drawer full of several EXMT and NRMT beauties from the glory days of pre-TPG that are trimmed, colored, bleached and so on. Many and I mean many of these came from regular advertisers in the glory days of the SCD, many of whom are still in business.

[FUBAR]

To me, the most important thing a grading company offers me is traceability. I do understand that cards can be broken out and sold raw, but it gives me the added security that should they be stolen, hopefully they could be tracked via their serial number.

I respect Ted's opinion probably more then anyone elses opinion. We differ on this one. I`m not pro grading nor am I anti grading. I can take cards graded or raw, doesn`t matter.

What matters to me is we all collect for the love of collecting and that is all that should really matter.

Guys will always like things different ways, graded or ungraded, big boobs or small ones, fast cars or luxury cars, blonds or brunettes. To each their own.... don`t take things personal if someone disagrees`... life is too short to worry about such trivial issues!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

As I stated bf I collect both raw and graded and will continue to. May very well have the raw graded at some point maybe not. I can tell you this, I have a drawer full of several EXMT and NRMT beauties from the glory days of pre-TPG that are trimmed, colored, bleached and so on. Many and I mean many of these came from regular advertisers in the glory days of the SCD, many of whom are still in business.

I had similar experience buying raw from SCD, EXCEPT for Mike Wheat whose cards were always fine.

[Fred]

Not to change the topic but just try to sell a real D304 Cobb that isn't graded and see how much money you'd lose because it isn't encased in plastic with a number on the label.

I don't mind threads about grading but I do agree that threads that rip third party grading companies because the poster received sub-expected grades is kind of boring. If you send in the cards then don't cry at what you get. Just accept it and move on. You can always bust the cards out and resubmit.