Question regarding OLD JUDGE & GOODWIN cards' sources ?

[rhettyeakley]

I have gotten several A&G, Duke, & Goodwin cards from collectors in both the UK and Australia.

It is also interesting to note that it is obvious that Goodwin targetted Australia specifically w/ its Old Judge brand as I have owned a few of the Aussie "Football" players that are sometimes encountered-one or two came directly from Australian ebay sellers.
-Rhett

[barrysloate]

Ted- I usually defer to your memory, but 1985 still sounds early to me. I think I did buy them at Willow Grove, however.

[Leon]

Through the years I have bought quite a few US baseball cards from overseas (England) but I don't think any were from N162. Jon C might be able to answer the question pertaining to cards in the export Old Judge packs. The export ones seem to be a bit more plentiful than the American OJ packs, maybe because collectors keep the American ones more often, but I am not sure.

[DJR]

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[tedzan]

DJR

This is an interesting observation on your part......"It feels like, on average, N cards (my focus) collected by UK
collectors are in much higher grades."


The N162 cards I acquired from the English gentleman were Excellent. Furthermore, none of them had the usual
glue or photo album page residue on their backs....typical of many 19th Century cards found in this country.


Also, you alluded to the "Geo. S Harris & Sons, Lith. Phila." trademark (TM) on the some of the N162's. American
Lithographic Co. purchased Harris Litho.; but, I am not certain that it occured during the press runs of the N162
cards. If so, then that might explain why some cards were printed with the TM, while other N162's don't have it.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Following up on the post regarding the N162 cards with the printer's TradeMark (TM).
My research, during 25 years of collecting these cards, indicates that approx. 20% of
the N162 cards are found with this TM.





Any one who has has knowledge of why the TM is missing on the majority of N162's,
please chime in ?



TED Z

[tedzan]

I've read thru most of the recent Old Judge & Goodwin book by Jay Miller, Joe Gonsowski and Richard Masson
and, perhaps I missed it....but, couldn't find any info regarding foreign finds of these late 19th Century cards.

Perhaps, Jay Miller will chime in on this topic.


TED Z

[tedzan]

One more try to elicit some more inputs here.


TED Z

[D. Bergin]

The Brits always took better care of their cards then us. In the 1990's I was buying up tons of 1920's-30's sports and non-sports sets from England and they were almost always absolutely pristine.

When we were putting our cards in bicycle spokes and playing flippsies or knockdowns, they were either putting them in the custom albums that were produced for many of the sets, or wrapping them in wax paper and putting them away.