Would JSA or PSA not pass a card that was signed in person for any reason?

drc · #1 05-11-2010, 01:45 PM

I always wondered about the case study that involves a reporter forging a Sal Bando autograph. First, in the real world who would forge a Sal Bando autograph for submission to JSA or PSA? Just seemed like a strange to unlikely scenario that would exist only on a tv show. Perhaps the only person who would even come up with the serious idea of going to a Sal Bando signing to forge a Sal Bando autograph would be that reporter or her editor. And Second, I found it somehow troubling on some level a reporter forging autographs. Just didn't sit well with me.

Not making excuses for JSA. They clearly made an error.

Frank A · #2 05-11-2010, 04:48 PM

How about a beautiful Ruth ball I sold a few years ago. The man who bought it took it to one of these so called authenticators. Oh, that ball is no good, bad auto. The guy comes back to me with it and I asked him what asshole said it was no good. The person must be an idiot. He told me. If the so called expert was in front of me I would have choked him. I have seen plenty of nice Ruth sigs, and this was one. Nice early sig on a red and blue stiched ball. I gave the guy his money back, as I am a legit guy. I then decided to send it to one of the auction houses. WALAA. It was Authenticated. A MIRACLE!!!!!!!!!!! I made less money on the ball but is was magicly real. You can take all these specialists and send them to hell. PHONIES, all of them.

jbsports33 · #3 05-11-2010, 07:31 PM

I do have respect for most in the hobby including authenticators and the companies. I was not trying to start a problem and I have been studying autos for a few years now and I understand it�s all about opinions. I just wish there was more consistency for the little guy, because I do think the auction houses get the upper hand. Maybe there is favoritism and there are issues and I have had more issues with autos then any other collectible, I just wish it was easier to sell and buy them without the hassles.

Jimmy

Scott Garner · #4 05-12-2010, 06:42 AM

With regards to professional authentication (opinion) companies like PSA and JSA:
Please let me state upfront, I believe that companies like these have value to the collector, especially when it comes to a big $$ signature. As several have already stated, they don't always get the "opinion" part right because they are human.

IMHO, experience has taught me when it comes to collecting signatures that you didn't actually get yourself:

Buy from dealer that you know well and trust. Legit guys always stand behind the sale. Some of the best autograph dealers that I would recommend include: Phil Marks, Bill Corcoran, Jim Stinson, Rhys Yeakley and Kevin Keating.

Take the time and responsibility to educate yourself on what a player's signature looks like prior to adding it to your collection.

When it comes time to determining the necessity that a signature be "legitimized" by a professional authentication company, use common sense. What is the liklihood that a particular player's autograph will be forged? If the liklihood is minimal, what is the value in spending the time/energy/money to have an "opinion" rendered on a sig? Sadly, there are collectors out there that feel that EVERY signature must have somebody like PSA or JSA authenticate it.

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