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Old 05-11-2010, 04:45 AM
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But there are a few New Orleans Pelicans in the SL series, who were teammates of Jackson at the time. He could have been included among those players.
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:05 AM
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Default E90-1

All the more impressive that he showed up in the E90-1 American Caramel Series from 1909

top 10 card in the hobby?

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Old 05-11-2010, 08:17 AM
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In 2006, I posted my theory on why the T206 Plank was yanked. This theory actually referred to a "larger picture",
where the American Caramel Co. prevented the American Tobacco Co. from depicting Philadelphia A's players.

This theory is the result of several factors, including these two......

(1) The 1st Series of the Philadelphia-based E90-1 set preceded the 1st series of the T206 set. It depicts these A's

HR Baker
Jack Barry
Chief Bender
Eddie Collins
Harry Davis
Jimmy Dygert
Heinie Heitmuller
Joe Jackson <<<<<<<<<
Harry Krause
Stuffy McInnis
Eddie Plank
Ira Thomas

(2) The withholding of the Collins (batting) card from the 1st series of T206's provides further support for this theory.

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Now, as Joe Jackson's 1908-09 stats (that Jim R has posted) show, Joe was no "big deal" playing in Philadelphia. Besides,
Danny Murphy was the hometown favorite and Joe Jax wasn't about to replace Danny.

Connie Mack preferred recruiting College ball players; and, Joe Jax just did not fit with the A's. He was sent to the Minors
and in July 1910, Connie Mack traded him to Cleveland. Joe Jax started realizing his true ability playing for Cleveland in 1911,
as he batted .408 in 147 games.

Production of the T206 cards ceased in the Spring of 1911....so, the REAL question should be....why wasn't Joe Jax in the
T205 set ?


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Old 05-11-2010, 08:41 AM
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Good stuff Ted Z.

the value of the E90 is certainly aided by the fact that there is no Jackson T206 or T205...
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Ok well a dumb question

Do we know if the ballplayers that were in these sets were contracted way back then or did the manufacturers just use their likeness with little or no compensation??? I am curious to know because if Joe Jackson was illiterate like we all know him to be, could the reason he was not included in the t-206 set be that he wouldnt sign a contract because he couldnt read it?? I Know he was pretty young and green when these cards were printed and maybe he just didnt want to commit because he didnt know the terms of the contract.

I know..it sounds so simple and far fetched but you just never know! I just thought I would throw this out there.
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