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Old 05-10-2010, 08:32 PM
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looks like at the time of release he was at the beginning of his career and didn't have the numbers of a star or a major league team. There were some minor league players added in the 350 series but I am sure it was hit or miss with so many teams and players. Release time was 8 to 10 years before the Black Sox issue.
I also believe the T210 set issue stopped the T206 Old Mill. There are alot of 206s that do not exist with Old Mill. Not sure how it all fits together but these are the parts to the puzzle.
The T210 issue covered alot of the minor southern league teams, while the 206 issue just barely touched these teams.

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Yet he made it into E90-1. Just one of those things.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:56 PM
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I think maybe a more difficult question to answer is why he was not included in the T205 and/or T207 sets. By early 1911, he was at least a very hot prospect that would have merited inclusion in the T205 set. After that season, he was a bona fide star and should have been a no-brainer for the 1912 T207 set. In fact, he was mentioned as a star player on the backs of two other cards in that set. Perhaps there was a contractual issue that kept him off of tobacco issues as his stats and status were surely worthy of his inclusion.
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I found this on Ebay several years ago,thought it was a great novelty piece.
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But there are a few New Orleans Pelicans in the SL series, who were teammates of Jackson at the time. He could have been included among those players.
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:05 AM
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All the more impressive that he showed up in the E90-1 American Caramel Series from 1909

top 10 card in the hobby?

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Old 05-11-2010, 08:17 AM
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Default Why no T206 Joe Jax ?

In 2006, I posted my theory on why the T206 Plank was yanked. This theory actually referred to a "larger picture",
where the American Caramel Co. prevented the American Tobacco Co. from depicting Philadelphia A's players.

This theory is the result of several factors, including these two......

(1) The 1st Series of the Philadelphia-based E90-1 set preceded the 1st series of the T206 set. It depicts these A's

HR Baker
Jack Barry
Chief Bender
Eddie Collins
Harry Davis
Jimmy Dygert
Heinie Heitmuller
Joe Jackson <<<<<<<<<
Harry Krause
Stuffy McInnis
Eddie Plank
Ira Thomas

(2) The withholding of the Collins (batting) card from the 1st series of T206's provides further support for this theory.

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Now, as Joe Jackson's 1908-09 stats (that Jim R has posted) show, Joe was no "big deal" playing in Philadelphia. Besides,
Danny Murphy was the hometown favorite and Joe Jax wasn't about to replace Danny.

Connie Mack preferred recruiting College ball players; and, Joe Jax just did not fit with the A's. He was sent to the Minors
and in July 1910, Connie Mack traded him to Cleveland. Joe Jax started realizing his true ability playing for Cleveland in 1911,
as he batted .408 in 147 games.

Production of the T206 cards ceased in the Spring of 1911....so, the REAL question should be....why wasn't Joe Jax in the
T205 set ?


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Good stuff Ted Z.

the value of the E90 is certainly aided by the fact that there is no Jackson T206 or T205...
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