Hobby Myths Most Accept as True

egbeachley · #1 05-07-2010, 03:34 PM

Myth: Coupon backed T206's were correctly given their own ACC designation.

Matt · #2 05-07-2010, 03:41 PM

Myth: There are 6 horizontal cards in the T206 set.

bcbgcbrcb · #3 05-07-2010, 03:46 PM

How about the biggest myth......the T206 Wagner is so scarce because he did not mant to promote smoking cigarettes to children......

E93 · #4 05-07-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

How about the biggest myth......the T206 Wagner is so scarce because he did not mant to promote smoking cigarettes to children......

That one is corroborated by several period articles.
JimB

E93 · #5 05-07-2010, 03:57 PM

More recent myth:
Ty Cobb backs are not T206s.

JimB

Peter_Spaeth · #6 05-07-2010, 04:04 PM

Held by some, anyway: 52 Topps Mantle is his rookie card.

ethicsprof · #7 05-07-2010, 04:08 PM

Burdick's ACC is sacrosanct and should not be reedited and ultimately revamped.

best,
barry

Mark · #8 05-07-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93

That one is corroborated by several period articles.
JimB

No, it's been shown that it's just a theory, a story, a myth.

benchod · #9 05-07-2010, 09:27 PM

Mark,
Wagner's own Granddaughter is qouted as saying that Wagner had the card pulled because he didn't want children to have to buy tobacco in order to get his card. What is a myth is that he was anti tobacco himself. The following is from the New York Public Library:

Distributed with Sweet Caporal Cigarettes, ca. 1909–11, the Honus Wagner baseball card is perhaps the most revered of all 20th-century baseball memorabilia, and — because only a very limited number of cards survived after Wagner caused it to be pulled from circulation — it is touted as the rarest of all baseball cards. But Wagner was no anti-smoking zealot. His granddaughter set the record straight in 1992: "He always had a wad of chewbacca in his mouth, and he wasn't against tobacco at all. His concern was he didn’t want children to have to buy tobacco in order to get his card. . . . That’s the fact behind it. It wasn’t that he didn’t get paid for it, or he was against tobacco, he just didn’t want children to have to buy tobacco at a young age in order to get his cards."

Mark · #10 05-07-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by benchod

Mark,
Wagner's own Granddaughter is qouted as saying that Wagner had the card pulled because he didn't want children to have to buy tobacco in order to get his card. What is a myth is that he was anti tobacco himself. The following is from the New York Public Library:

Distributed with Sweet Caporal Cigarettes, ca. 1909�11, the Honus Wagner baseball card is perhaps the most revered of all 20th-century baseball memorabilia, and � because only a very limited number of cards survived after Wagner caused it to be pulled from circulation � it is touted as the rarest of all baseball cards. But Wagner was no anti-smoking zealot. His granddaughter set the record straight in 1992: "He always had a wad of chewbacca in his mouth, and he wasn't against tobacco at all. His concern was he didn�t want children to have to buy tobacco in order to get his card. . . . That�s the fact behind it. It wasn�t that he didn�t get paid for it, or he was against tobacco, he just didn�t want children to have to buy tobacco at a young age in order to get his cards."

Yes, I totally agree. I made a similar argument on the old board

http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...er+t206+theory

fkw · #11 05-07-2010, 03:57 PM

Scrapps came with tobacco (diecuts for scrapbooks, nonbaseball subjects in same series)
Cobb with Cobb back is a T206

(single player set)
T213-1 are a part of T206 (thin paper stock unlike all 15 others)
T206 Wagner is Rare (over 60, rare?)
E97 B&W are proofs (unknown)
Square Colgans are proofs (unknown)
Pinkerton Photo cards were issued well after T5's (postmarks prove otherwise)
W502 are strip cards (candy issue)
W555 is a strip card set (camera style candy box, end flaps)
W575-2 are handcut (boxed set)
Tangos werent known until 1992 (vintage worn examples are known)
1921 Herpolsheimers are reprints (not)
Derby Cigar cards came with Derby Cigars (unknown)
First Fleer baseball cards were in 1959 (1923)
1954 Red Heart Dog Food cards were only available in 1954 (1954-70s)
Only 2 sets of Exhibits from 1939-1966 (at least a dozen sets)
Leaf baseball was issued in 1948 (1949)

egbeachley · #12 05-07-2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Myth: Coupon backed T206's were correctly given their own ACC designation.

Wait, I may need to correct my own post. The OP is asking for myths that most accept as true.

Al C.risafulli · #13 05-07-2010, 04:40 PM

1938 Goudey second series are more difficult to obtain than the first series.
Henry Johnson Confectioners cards are W575-1s.

-Al

Fred · #14 05-07-2010, 05:22 PM

N162 Dunlap showing him on Detroit.

The stereotype that all collectors are "weird" or "nerds". That only applies to the other 99% of collectors I know.

FUBAR · #15 05-07-2010, 05:24 PM

Not really a card, but how about Babe Ruth's "called shot" recently immortalized in Mcfarlane figurines....

onlychild · #16 05-07-2010, 05:51 PM

From the alteration side:

Cards are micro-trimmed with lasers.
Cards can be stretched.
Cards are rebacked (they are typically refronted or spliced together)

matty39 · #17 05-07-2010, 07:59 PM

that Ferguson Bakery BF2s were distributed by Ferguson Bakery. The large "prize pennants" were given away as premiums by Ferguson, but there is no proof that the smaller pennants were from Ferguson.

bcornell · #18 05-07-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FUBAR

Not really a card, but how about Babe Ruth's "called shot" recently immortalized in Mcfarlane figurines....

There was recently a New Yorker article profiling retiring Supreme Court justice John Paul Stevens. How old is Stevens? Old enough that he was in attendance at that Cubs-Yankees WS game in 1932. He said he saw Ruth gesture to the outfield, but then misremembered where the ball was hit. Oops.

Here's the article online: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...fa_fact_toobin.

Bill

mintacular · #19 05-07-2010, 09:36 PM

Myth: Cards are worth Beckett book $'s...

benchod · #20 05-07-2010, 09:36 PM

Myths I remember from the 1970's and '80s were the supposed scarcity of the 1967 Topps Brooks Robinson and 1970 Topps Bench

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