R314 Type 4&5 on eBay

[paul]

Are these two the rare Type 5s? I can't find them in the checklists for the more common creamy set (the set with DiMaggio).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

If they are Type 5s, they went for a lot less than the previous batch.

[paul]

I just looked back at the earlier auctions and see that only a few of the cards of common players went for a lot of money. And the earlier Simmons and Cochrane both went cheap. Are these all really the rare type 5s?

[fkw]

Yes they are the very tough type 5's. All the auctions with "GOODEY" in title were duplicates sold by the same Canadian seller that had the near set a couple weeks back. I finally got a couple too.

In last month weve seen about 60-65 of these Rare cards on eBay, but usually its more like 5-10 examples a year on eBay, at most.


I believe this is the correct info below... (guides need to change their checklists)
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type5 has 12 different Detroit Tigers* known (maybe 13, Owen?)

Cochrane, Goslin, Hayworth, Rogell, Simmons, Walker, White are only found in type5 (photo is same as type1 but no "Litho in USA" line)

At least 2 of the Detroit players are found in type4 & type5 with similar poses but have very slight contrast/cropping differences
Gehringer, Greenberg, (Owen?)

3 of the Detroit players found in both type4 & type5 sets have completely different poses, so are obviously easy to spot.
type4 ... Bridges (throwing), Fox (batting), Rowe (throwing)
type5 ... Bridges (portrait), Fox (portrait), Rowe (portrait)

[fkw]

I posted the comparison pictures of the type4 and type5 Gehringer earlier in this post.

Here is the Greenberg, its much easier to see the differences, mainly in contrast ......notice top of his right ear (left side ear), and also the crease on uniform on left side of picture. The overall color/contrast is much darker on the type4.


type4, type5

[fkw]

Anyone have the R314-4 "creamy" Owen card??? Id like to see scans of any you may have. Im trying to see if there are 2 versions of this Owen portrait card like the Gehringer and Greenberg.

There was no Owen in the 2 groups of type5's on eBay, so Im not sure if it is part of the type4 or type5 set, or maybe both.

[paul]

Thanks for the info. I'm glad to have these rare cards even if they ain't worth so much.

[buckyball1]

wow, now i am really sad--when the first large batch i started the thread about appeared awhile back, i couldn't "afford" to win any---now having my searches set for 1936 Goudey or R314, i never even saw these (and i could have won some)....so i still have no Type 5s---bummed

jim

[timn1]

Hi Frank,
I don't think Owen is part of the Type 5 set -- I was assuming we were now complete at 50 (11 Tigers)-- do you have reason to think Owen is also in it?

Tim