Searching for a "Pirate" Cobb....show us these extremely rare "T215" cards ?

[tedzan]

1st......I have been skeptical of the claim that the T215 cards are a Louisiana issue. The Red Cross
backs have a New Jersey Factory on them.

2nd......I somewhat agree with you, the Pirate issue should have it's own classification (T-xyz). As,
it is white-bordered set that was issued abroad.


TED Z

[White Borders]

Not mine (but I wish it was!) and I don't remember where I got the scan.

[rman444]

[rman444]

[rman444]

[calvindog]

Wow, where are those pictures from?

[canjond]

[HercDriver]

Ted --

Here's a few non-baseball since you asked...kind of cool since they have a bit different back. If anybody wants to trade a beater for a few, let me know...

Take Care,
Geno

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by tedzan

1st......I have been skeptical of the claim that the T215 cards are a Louisiana issue. The Red Cross
backs have a New Jersey Factory on them.

2nd......I somewhat agree with you, the Pirate issue should have it's own classification (T-xyz). As,
it is white-bordered set that was issued abroad.


TED Z

Points are well taken. Although printed from a New Jersey factory, does that preclude them from being shipped to Louisiana? Where did the legend of Red Cross originating in Louisiana come from? Additionally, who decided in the hobby to give this the T215 designation and why was it accepted?

[rman444]

Jon - I think I've told you before - that is the sweetest pack that I have ever seen!

[ullmandds]

Those birdy pirate backs are coooll!!! Here are some of my oriental characters...I've always liked these!

[cfc1909]

I have a few of the oriental cards as well-the baseball cards that I have seen are the Doolan-last I seen it was in a Verkman auction-I have also seen a Tinker and a Wagner bat on right at the last Philly show and I think it will be in a upcomming Goodwin. I have also seen the Pelty Scott posted but that is all I can remember besides the set in Legendary. I am sure there are a few in some old collections-it would be nice to see some more.

[rman444]

Jeff - can you guess which one has Ty Cobb on the front?

[tedzan]

The T215 cards were printed in New York City (as most of that era's T-cards), then shipped to Jersey City, NJ to
the Lorillard plant (Factory #10) to be inserted into the Red Cross tobacco products.

The "Louisiana connection" is based on a large find of these cards many years back from the Louisiana area. I
would conclude that someone from the NY-NJ area moved to Louisiana a long time ago and brought with them
a large collection of Red Cross cards.


Regarding your 2nd question......
" Additionally, who decided in the hobby to give this the T215 designation and why was it accepted? "

Of course Burdick did....and, I would assume he classified the Pirate cards as T215 since these cards have identical
fronts as the T215-1 issue.


TED Z

[canjond]

Originally Posted by rman444

Jon - I think I've told you before - that is the sweetest pack that I have ever seen!

It is a very neat pack and not seen often at all. I know of 2 others although I'm sure there are some more around I'm not aware of.