Old Judge and Dogs Head Cigarette Packs For Sale

[Joe_G.]

IMO, I don't believe that pack contained baseball cards. That OJ pack appears to have been exported outside the US. During the N172 era, these packs did often include cards of actresses, royalty, and even sports figures (boxers for example), but likely didn't include baseball cards. I believe baseball cards were distributed throughout the US in packs that had nothing more than a tax stamp on back (no export notice).

Perhaps Jay will chime in.

[tedzan]

I certainly defer to you regarding Old Judge's (N172). Anyhow, when I noted the lettering "Packed in our Star Tin Foil
Expressly for Export Trade".....it reminded me of a bunch of N162 cards that I acquired from a fellow in England years
ago. He told me that these cards were in his family's collection for 102 years.

The Goodwin Champions are my favorite cards, and I have put together 3.5 sets (177 cards) of these beautiful litho-
graphs. Therefore, it could be possible that N162 cards were inserted in such an OJ pack (circa 1888-1889).


TED Z

[canjond]

Ted - sent you an email answering your questions. However, also wanted to add some here, too. In terms of dating, I comfortably believe this pack dates to the 1885-1890 time frame. After 1890, Duke acquired Goodwin. Also, the factory and district numbers are not printed on the box, itself. I have never seen an OJ with the factory/district on the box, but rather it appears on the tax stamp. Also, as per Joe's comment, I believe the pack was used in the export trade as well. Interestingly enough, however, Ted informed me that he has purchased quantities of N162s out of England. (Correct me if I'm wrong Ted). Of course, even with that said, I couldn't speculate as to whether this once held a card - especially without the tax stamp (assuming US distribution).