Cobb/Cobb card in Goodwin Auction

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

Wall Street Journal? Its completely impossible to make a total seperation of cards and money Joe. Especially at the level of some of the collections here! There are plenty of hobbies that you can enjoy without worrying about dollars. I hear beanie babies are basically worthless, as are pogs, washers (as I recommended earlier), and possibly postcards or matchbooks. If you really want a "financial disconnect" in a hobby, why dont you try one of the above suggestions? But when a piece of cardboard sells for 6 figures, its IMPOSSIBLE to not discuss the financial aspect of it!

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To the Flipper Twins:
Please don't think that I'm one of the thin skins on this forum, because if you do, you will be making another one of your mistakes.

Let me start with the sonny boy from the Second City.
Lad, I've handled more high ended cards before you were out of diapers, and discovered the T206 set.
If you doubt that, just ask Lew Lipset, Mark Macrae, Leon's partner Scott Brockelman, Dan MaKee and Jim Rivera.

One of your post was about you going to a big show that had 150 tables.
Lad, I don't know how to break this to you .....

Back in the mid '80's thru the '90's, I would select a weekend and fly out of the Big Apple to a show ... let's say the West Coast ... I would fly out say on a Thursday to Long Beach, and then fly out to a Lee show in San Fran on Friday night.
Each show had anywhere between 600 to 1000 tables.
Lots of cards .. lots of choices .. lots to learn about them .. lots of dealers .. much to learn about them, and visa versa .. lots of cardoholics .. much to learn from each other.
It was at a Lee show in San Fran, that I picked up one of my biggest finds, just before I rushed out to the airport to catch my flight to NYC.
I'll spare you all the details, but I'll tell that it was an old box of chocolates, filled with over 800 of the nicest grade T's that I ever seen.
I had been working on a T206 set of whatever grades.
That box of better grade T206 & T205's, forced me to work on two sets.
The Beater, and the Better set.
I only need one to complete the better, and eight for full completion of the beater.

JP ..... you're almost a mirror image of the Second City Kid, but not quite.

From what I've heard, and listened to what's coming from the mouth of The Flipper Twins ... they are not dummies But ... they're trying awfully hard to be.

If they listened more, and talked less ... they might become usefull contributers to the community.

There's nothing wrong with being a Flipper, my problem with them is that they don't have the cojones to acknowledge the fact ... They are what they are.

Oh yes, before I forget .....
On two occasions I happened to stand up, and defend The Second City Kid when he was being jumped by the inhabitants of Slab Haven.

I now want to apologize to the warm, and kind inhabitants of Slab Haven for my thoughtless action.

There, I said it ... Carry on!

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by Potomac Yank

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To the Flipper Twins:
Please don't think that I'm one of the thin skins on this forum, because if you do, you will be making another one of your mistakes.

Let me start with the sonny boy from the Second City.
Lad, I've handled more high ended cards before you were out of diapers, and discovered the T206 set.
If you doubt that, just ask Lew Lipset, Mark Macrae, Leon's partner Scott Brockelman, Dan MaKee and Jim Rivera.

One of your post was about you going to a big show that had 150 tables.
Lad, I don't know how to break this to you .....

Back in the mid '80's thru the '90's, I would select a weekend and fly out of the Big Apple to a show ... let's say the West Coast ... I would fly out say on a Thursday to Long Beach, and then fly out to a Lee show in San Fran on Friday night.
Each show had anywhere between 600 to 1000 tables.
Lots of cards .. lots of choices .. lots to learn about them .. lots of dealers .. much to learn about them, and visa versa .. lots of cardoholics .. much to learn from each other.
It was at a Lee show in San Fran, that I picked up one of my biggest finds, just before I rushed out to the airport to catch my flight to NYC.
I'll spare you all the details, but I'll tell that it was an old box of chocolates, filled with over 800 of the nicest grade T's that I ever seen.
I had been working on a T206 set of whatever grades.
That box of better grade T206 & T205's, forced me to work on two sets.
The Beater, and the Better set.
I only need one to complete the better, and eight for full completion of the beater.

JP ..... you're almost a mirror image of the Second City Kid, but not quite.

From what I've heard, and listened to what's coming from the mouth of The Flipper Twins ... they are not dummies But ... they're trying awfully hard to be.

If they listened more, and talked less ... they might become usefull contributers to the community.

There's nothing wrong with being a Flipper, my problem with them is that they don't have the cojones to acknowledge the fact ... They are what they are.

Oh yes, before I forget .....
On two occasions I happened to stand up, and defend The Second City Kid when he was being jumped by the inhabitants of Slab Haven.

I now want to apologize to the warm, and kind inhabitants of Slab Haven for my thoughtless action.

There, I said it ... Carry on!

Im not here to "buddy up" with you Joe. This isnt Survivor where I feel compelled to form "alliances". You stood up for me because you thought you were right. I stated my thoughts on the financial aspect of the hobby because I feel im right. Futhermore, I never said I attended a "big show with 150 tables". I said it was a "big show with 150 DEALERS". Big difference there, and 150 dealers is a BIG show by anyone's standards.

Now lets delve into the affectionate term you use to describe me...flipper. My working definition of a "flipper" is one who is primarily interested in the short term profitability of a given area. Because I made a zero financial gain in the selling off of most of my cards, I cannot be classified as a "flipper" by MY definition. I simply redirected my area of focus, and shed off some items that no longer fit my plan. If thats considered being a "flipper", then I suppose the term can easily be applied to most members here, as im sure most members here have sold a card or two.

I have no problem with your other term of endearment for me....Second City Kid has a lovely ring to it! In fact, I respectfully request that you continue to call me that in all subsequent writings to me. However, although I am towards the younger spectrum on this forum (im 35), I wouldnt exactly classify that as being a "kid". But then again, I look at 18-19 year olds as "kids", so thats simply a matter of perspective I suppose.

[Bicem]

the Cobb price is interesting, and I'm very curious as to what the REA Cobb will now sell for... but what a terrible thread this has become.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Bicem

the Cobb price is interesting, and I'm very curious as to what the REA Cobb will now sell for... but what a terrible thread this has become.

Agreed. The original post was fine, but it went downhill so fast I no longer know who to root for.

[JP]

Indeed...yet another derailed thread.

Ignoring completely Joe P.'s rant and Chicago's falling-on-deaf-ears defense...

I would be VERY surprised if the REA Cobb passed Goodwin's. Something about the crease at the bottom of the REA Cobb is visually distracting...

[teetwoohsix]

Just wanted to say,after reading this thread this morning,I was pretty shocked to see where it went!!And my question,which I felt was legit,may have spiraled the thread.I wasn't trying to accuse anyone of anything,just was expressing my thoughts on why this card would be reaching such insane prices all of a sudden.

I don't feel I can apologize for asking a legit question,or for what anyone else says,but just want to be clear that my intentions with my question were not to spiral the thread!!!

Sincerely,Clayton

[JP]

Clayton, I thought your post was great! Not sure why it sparked Joe P.'s finger pointing rant, but it expressed exactly some of the thoughts I was having. I wonder if the winner will ever become known. THAT would likely lead to some answers as to whether it is going to be socked away for a long-time or turned in a few years...

[Bicem]

not your fault at all Clayton, it was a good question.

[M's_Fan]

With apologies to the drama queens, this post is actually about cards:

I would not put the Cobb/Cobb in the Wagner class, or even in the Plank class, simply because it is the back alone that makes this card. You can complete a basic 526 card T206 set without the Cobb/Cobb, but you can't complete it without the Wagner or Plank.

Rare back collectors will always love this card, but they are a sub-set of the collector population. Collectors like me will look at this card and admire it, and then buy one with a less rare back for a fraction of the price and take that $50k and buy a bunch of other great cards.

So I think this puts a ceiling on the value and popularity of the Cobb/Cobb.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by M's_Fan

You can complete a basic 526 card T206 set without the Cobb/Cobb, but you can't complete it without the Wagner or Plank.

Agreed. Except for that part about "526."

As Gary Coleman would have said... "Watchoo talkin' bout Willis???"


Seriously, you meant 524, right? Please.

[M's_Fan]

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Agreed. Except for that part about "526."

As Gary Coleman would have said... "Watchoo talkin' bout Willis???"


Seroiusly, you meant 524, right? Please.

Yes, typo, 524.