R314 Type 4&5 on eBay

[fkw]

Funny, you beat me by a minute in a post on these rare cards.

The Tiger cards are really part of the same set. there is cropping differences in the Type 4 (R314C) and Type 5 (R314D) Tiger cards.

Example (R314C on left, R314D on right)

[buckyball1]

F--thanks for the Type 4/5 Detroit pics; i would never have noticed this crop difference w/o someone bringing it to my attention

jim

[jeffmohler]

I collect them. I have about 7 or 8 in all. As far as the Detroit players, I have Rogell (Good) and Gehringer (SGC 80). I had some snipes set and came in second on a few, but I have spent a little too much recently and couldn't go as strong as I wanted to.

Interesting note: When I sent Gehringer in to be graded, I had to send Tim Newcomb's Old Cardboard article to prove to SGC that the Detroit players were included in this rare set.

[timn1]

Hi guys,
Can you post a link to one of the auctions? I didn't see these, but I'd like to see what was involved.

Tim

[timn1]

Jeff is right. I think my article correctly characterizes the "Canadian" set (Type 5)-- the 8 Detroit players are part of it, along with 39 Montreal and Toronto guys. It's difficult to tell the difference from scans alone, but the matte paper stock on the Canadian Tigers is very different from the "Creamy" set, which is quite glossy. And as Jeff points out, there are cropping differences--

The Detroit players in the Canadian set are a good bit easier to find than the Montreal and Toronto players, in my experience.

I'll check in again after I've seen the auctions-

Tim

[buckyball1]

Tim--here's one--as Frank said, there close to 50 of these

http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-GOUDEY-R314...item5191c6637c


jim

[timn1]

Well, isn't that a kick in the pants? I thought I was complete on this very tough set, but this group gives us three new additions to the checklist of R314-5, all Detroit players: Fox, Walker, and Hayworth. I have seen a lot of the Detroit players overall, but never these three.

The Canadian players were all on the existing lists, so now we're at 50: 39 Montreal and Toronto photos, 11 Tigers. That makes more sense than 47 for a total number of the set. I just wish I had known about them when I wrote the articles.

BTW, the only Canadian players missing from the group today were Chagnon and Shaughnessy.

Those prices were pretty impressive, I thought. About $2600 for 50 cards. Impressive Canadian collection too. It's weird, I just started checking ebay again after a long hiatus-- can't understand how I missed these.

Tim

[fkw]

I just went back and looked.

There were *47 (*edited) different today

10 were Tigers (no Gehringer), *37 were Toronto/Montreal (no Shaugnessy, *Chagon)



I count 11 different Tigers. (10 in todays auctions + Gehringer)

1. Cochrane
2. Fox
3. Gehringer
4. Goslin
5. Greenberg
6. Hayworth
7. Rogell
8. Rowe
9. Simmons
10. Walker
11. White

That would be an even 50 in the set. (39+11) Maybe the SCD can update this 2011

*******Edited to say I was obviously slow with my research ******

[timn1]

I do have duplicates of Shaughnessy and Gehringer, heh heh. Let me know if you're interested

Tim

[egbeachley]

[QUOTE=fkw;801598]

The Tiger cards are really part of the same set. there is cropping differences in the Type 4 (R314C) and Type 5 (R314D) Tiger cards.

QUOTE]

Are you sure the difference is in cropping? The one on the right looks like a photograph while the one on the left looks like a drawing or is airbrushed or whatever they called it back then.