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[Potomac Yank]

Here's what I'm getting from the kind, and understanding folks of this forum.

In so many words, they are saying ... build a seperate forum for the special breed.

Let's call it ... The Cat Walk for Tender Skin Pussy Cats.

Build it, and they will come.

[Browncow75]

Originally Posted by Potomac Yank

Here's what I'm getting from the kind, and understanding folks of this forum.

In so many words, they are saying ... build a seperate forum for the special breed.

Let's call it ... The Cat Walk for Tender Skin Pussy Cats.

Build it, and they will come.

Hey Joe,
Maybe Leon can alter the signup page with a box to check that says "Does not play well with others". We will know who to look out for then!

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by Browncow75

Hey Joe,
Maybe Leon can alter the signup page with a box to check that says "Does not play well with others". We will know who to look out for then!

And maybe tweak the software so that you arent allowed an opinion until you can prove you have been collecting for at least 25 years!

[Browncow75]

I try not to make any direct statements about vintage because I dont have the money or collection to back up anything I might say. I collect, therefore I am. ????????

[Abravefan11]

It's not that you can't be new to the hobby or board and post. I for one wish more of the knowledgeable lurkers and new people to the hobby would post.

But it would help if they did a quick search before they posted and if they couldn't find the answer to their question create a new thread with a polite question and let the knowledge come to them.

Unfortunately these flare ups dissuade many from getting involved.

[Potomac Yank]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

And maybe tweak the software so that you arent allowed an opinion until you can prove you have been collecting for at least 25 years!

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Simply stated, he's an amateur. ..... He can't handle an opposing opinon.

[whitehse]

All I can say is that I have been reading these boards for what has to be 5 years or more. I dont often chime in because I have acknowledged that there are people on these boards who have far more understanding of pre-war than I will ever have. I log on, read the boards, absorb information, gain knowledge, post occasionally and appreciate everyone here. But I have to tell you Phil has worn out his welcome on every board he has been on. To him its all about the money he has to throw around.

So in my best south side Chicago accent because I know thats where you live....

Phil, we get it..you have some money to trow around and you have that HUGE sout side ego you need to feed. Just get this tru your thick freaking head...don't come on here talking bout da cards you know nutting about yet. Absorb information and den make a contriBUtion worth writin' about. Now go get yourself a polish and a RC cola for dinner and relax!!

[Rob D.]

Andrew,

Thanks for the RC reference. One of my fondest collecting memories is drinking rivers of that stuff in the summers of 1977 and '78 in an attempt to collect complete sets of 70 and 100 cans, respectively. Displayed them pyramid style on top of a bookcase in my room.

[Bridwell]

I loved the RC Cola cans, at first. But they sure took up a lot of space in my closet! Eventually I dumped them cheap at a show in the 1980's. Got tired of moving them around. Also dumped the 7-11 cups. Remember them?

Ron R

[jmk59]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

And maybe tweak the software so that you arent allowed an opinion until you can prove you have been collecting for at least 25 years!

Hmmm. Do I want to try this? OK. I'll try it.

Chicago, it's not at all that you can't have an opinion because you haven't been around the hobby for 25 years. The problem is that you absolutely DEMAND that your opinion be counted exactly equally as those that come from much more experienced and knowledgable collectors.

If you have mysterious headaches, do you want the opinion of a doctor with 25 years specializing in all forms of research, analysis, diagnosis and treatments of mystery headaches? Or are you OK with the opinion of a freshman in a pre-med college program that is taking Biology and Algebra? Are both opinions equally reliable? If the freshman wants to argue with the experienced specialist and adamantly insist that the specialist isn't showing proper respect to his opinion, wouldn't the specialist start getting irritated at some point?

It's not that you can't have an opinion. It's that you have no respect for the fact that the opinions of some of the others properly carry more weight around here.

I don't post as much as I used to here for a variety of reasons, but I at least try to read and keep up. This kind of thing makes even that difficult sometimes.

Joann

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by jmk59

Hmmm. Do I want to try this? OK. I'll try it.

Chicago, it's not at all that you can't have an opinion because you haven't been around the hobby for 25 years. The problem is that you absolutely DEMAND that your opinion be counted exactly equally as those that come from much more experienced and knowledgable collectors.

If you have mysterious headaches, do you want the opinion of a doctor with 25 years specializing in all forms of research, analysis, diagnosis and treatments of mystery headaches? Or are you OK with the opinion of a freshman in a pre-med college program that is taking Biology and Algebra? Are both opinions equally reliable? If the freshman wants to argue with the experienced specialist and adamantly insist that the specialist isn't showing proper respect to his opinion, wouldn't the specialist start getting irritated at some point?

It's not that you can't have an opinion. It's that you have no respect for the fact that the opinions of some of the others properly carry more weight around here.

I don't post as much as I used to here for a variety of reasons, but I at least try to read and keep up. This kind of thing makes even that difficult sometimes.

Joann

If the 25+ year doctor insists that my head hurts because "he says so", and the freshman goes into detail the possible reasons why its hurting...then I listen to the freshman. If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

If the 25+ year doctor insists that my head hurts because "he says so", and the freshman goes into detail the possible reasons why its hurting...then I listen to the freshman. If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

Damn..this definitely shows your lack of respect for guys who have put alot of time in this hobby far more than you ever will. Ask your questions but dont disrespect your elders.

So I assume a proby in your engine company telling the captain that he is wrong about how a fire will work its way through a home because he was taught differently in the academy will be accepted by the Captain??? I bet not. Experience trumps book knowledge and you have 3 months experience in a hobby many of us have put 30+ years into!

Just as I am sure your captain will tell the new guy you need to do the same....sit down...shut the hell up and learn something from the other guys!! But I assume this will not happen because your ego is so large that you cant just shut up and listen. I bet you thrive on all the commotion you have stirred up dont you!! throw your money around, and show everyone how well off you are!! sadly, you really have shown most of us more of yourself than we will ever care to know. Go back to coins!!

[Wite3]

Chicago,
Just so you know...T-206s are called T-206s for the exact reason you said, "Burdick said so." Before him, they were called tobacco cards, collector cards, by their brands, or players, or teams, etc....He cataloged and gave them the designations you use. So, yes, I will listen to Burdick. Feel free to start calling them something else but your analogy is slightly flawed. Call the Cobb whatever you wish but in many people's opinions it is a T206 in the classic sense.

There is something to be said about experience and knowledge.

Joshua

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

I also support a "vacation" for this guy.

[White Borders]

I've still got my complete sets of '77 & '78 RC Cola Cans (empty) in my closet. Got a few dupes - if anyone is interested PM or email me.

Best Regards,
Craig

[tedzan]

This dude thinks he is this forum's "Steve McQueen"....Well, recall "The Great Escape", where McQueen was sent to the "cooler".

It's time to relegate this dude to the "cooler" for a week and provide him a bunch of vintage BB books to read (e.g.."Ty and the
Babe", "The Year They Called Off The World Series", etc.). So he can appreciate the pictures on the FRONT of these T206's.

And, perhaps when he returns, he will have cooled down, moderated his rhetoric, and hopefully be more informed.

[E93]

Originally Posted by Chicago206

If the 25+ year doctor insists that my head hurts because "he says so", and the freshman goes into detail the possible reasons why its hurting...then I listen to the freshman. If crotchety old 25+ year collectors tell me the Cobb/Cobb is a T206 cuz Burdick said so, well then....you get the idea.

Your inability to follow an argument that contradicts your unfounded opinions is not evidence that your unfounded opinion is valid.

Your inability to find any humility in the face of people like Ted Z. who have forgotten more about T206s than you know is but one of the reasons people here are so frustrated with you and wish you would either go away or get a serious attitude adjustment.

One of the humbling benefits of getting a Ph.D. was the recognition of how much I did not know, even in my area of expertise. A little humility goes a long way in this world. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
JimB

P.S. It is funny that you bring up an analogy with freshman students. You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by E93

Your inability to follow an argument that contradicts your unfounded opinions is not evidence that your unfounded opinion is valid.

Your inability to find any humility in the face of people like Ted Z. who have forgotten more about T206s than you know is but one of the reasons people here are so frustrated with you and wish you would either go away or get a serious attitude adjustment.

One of the humbling benefits of getting a Ph.D. was the recognition of how much I did not know, even in my area of expertise. A little humility goes a long way in this world. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
JimB

P.S. It is funny that you bring up an analogy with freshman students. You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

LOL!


Now Jim... I just got him calmed down on that other thread and you go light another fire here!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by E93

You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

Actually that's the definition of sophomoric, not freshman! "Of, relating to, or characteristic of a sophomore; conceited and overconfident of knowledge but poorly informed and immature"

[dstudeba]

Originally Posted by E93

One of the humbling benefits of getting a Ph.D. was the recognition of how much I did not know, even in my area of expertise. A little humility goes a long way in this world. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
JimB

True dat.

Originally Posted by E93

P.S. It is funny that you bring up an analogy with freshman students. You strike me as a lot like some of my freshman students who, due to the tidbits of new-found knowledge they have, they think they are incredibly knowledgeable. But they are utterly unaware of the vast limits to their knowledge. On this basis they make arguments with gaping holes, much like you, but due to ignorance are unaware that the holes are even there.

And again.

[JP]

Like a little kid that flinchs when a bully raises his fist, I think a lot of hobby vets are flinching in response to Chicago's posts, whether or not it has merits. A vacation seems in order...

[buymycards]

Chicago, you made your first post on Feb 14, and so far you have made 266 posts. Maybe it's time for you to just shut up for a while.

Rick