Need a little help...

[barrysloate]

The majority of the Paige pencil clips in the hobby are modern reproductions. We had a thread about them last month on the memorabilia side. I don't know if there are any diagnostic marks that would help you determine if one was real or not.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The majority of the Paige pencil clips in the hobby are modern reproductions. We had a thread about them last month on the memorabilia side. I don't know if there are any diagnostic marks that would help you determine if one was real or not.

Actually, the majority of Browns Paige clips are reproductions. I've never seen a repro of an Indians Paige clip (or any Indians clip, for that matter).

[barrysloate]

Rob- I once bought a Cleveland Satchell Paige pencil clip, as well as some Paige buttons, from an antique store and later found out they were modern fakes. I'm pretty sure it was Cleveland and not St. Louis...but it was about 20+ years ago so I may be wrong.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Rob- I once bought a Cleveland Satchell Paige pencil clip, as well as some Paige buttons, from an antique store and later found out they were modern fakes. I'm pretty sure it was Cleveland and not St. Louis...

I'd be very surprised if that were the case.

[barrysloate]

Then I am remembering them wrong. I know I bought many pencil clips, and a Satchell Paige Cleveland button, and they were all modern repros. Maybe the clip was a Browns clip....too many years ago, I guess.

[Rob D.]

Here's a real Browns Paige, along with five other authentic ones. The Browns clips are at least 15 times more difficult to find than the Indians clips. How rare they are compared to a Red Hindu, I have no idea.

The pencil clips were the brainchild of Bill Veeck when he owned the Indians. When he moved to the Browns, he recycled the idea in St. Louis. A friend has a letter from Veeck that he received in response to an inquiry he made when Veeck was with the White Sox. In it Veeck talks about the pencil clip promotion. I have a photocopy of the letter, which I'll post later if I can dig it up.

[fkw]

Interesting,
Looks like the image of Paige is lighter and more detailed on Robs group example.... Compared to the other 2 types I had linmks to. (larger and small image).

I guess the authentic ones will have that clear more detailed portrait.

Its been close to 30 years since Ive owned one