Fake '33 Goudey Lou Gehrig card on eBay

[iggyman]

Jim posted a picture of a real Gehrig card. Notice how it passes all the tests of authenticity.

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[teetwoohsix]

Thanks iggyman.I do remember one of those threads where this was being discussed.The one in question is now at $300.00+!!

Clayton

[iggyman]

Here is the fake one on eBay. Notice the difference???

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[ChiefBenderForever]

It's really a tough call imo, I have also never seen a fake with bleeding through, but the red appeared to bleed through on the back a little to far to one side but if fake it is the best fake I have ever seen. I'm still not convinced one way or the other 100%.

[iggyman]

I've seen plenty of fakes with bleeding on the back. Believe me, that is not a strong indicator of authenticity. You mean to tell me you cannot see the difference in color? That fake Gehrig is white as snow!!!

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[ChiefBenderForever]

Color is spot on, the sgc example is faded, I can't tell from the scans but I am also not an expert.

[iggyman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHarmonica

Color is spot on, the sgc example is faded, I can't tell from the scans but I am also not an expert.

Hopefully, Frank Ward can chime in. But, I'm done with this thread. It is, what it is.

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[teetwoohsix]

Johnny,that's one of the things that had me confused also,was the red bleeding through the back.It seems like the reprint ones I looked at didn't have that.A lot of (not all) the ones that I looked at in graded holders had the red bleeding through the back.

Edit to add-I can easily see what iggyman is pointing out,and have decided if I was ever to buy one of these Gehrig beauties,I would only buy one already slabbed by SGC-these seem alot harder to spot than fake T206's!!!

[iggyman]

I would agree that red bleeding on the back of a Goudey card is a good sign. But, in this case, it only means that the original card used for the repro had the red bleeding. Nothing more.

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[fkw]

Its a fake, but one of the better ones because of the wet sheet back.

Everyone seems to look at different areas...
I look at the overall color (darker areas are too dark compared to the lighter ones, face has a "raccoon eye" look). The dirt doesnt blend well into border like the authentic do, also the red strip is exactly the same width as the rest of background (authentic cards the red strip ever so slightly doesnt match up with the background above where they meet the border).

[FUBAR]

Once it is pointed out you can see it. However what makes this one tough is that it isn't a scan , rather an average at best photo, which is probably done on purpose.

Thanks Iggy and Frank... info like this is always appreciated.

[ChiefBenderForever]

Yeah this is a great fake, so good it's up to 500.00 OUCH !! Someone is getting a royal screw job on this one. Thanks to Iggy for pointing this one out !

[Jewish-collector]

Thanks for the info.

Is this one real:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-Base...51911443731805

[GoldenAge50s]

Using all the criteria mentioned it is definitely the real deal!

[iggyman]

Originally Posted by Jewish-collector

Thanks for the info.

Is this one real:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-Base...51911443731805

Alan, the card in question certainly passes the test and looks legit. If it were priced properly and I was in the market for a '33 Gehrig. Well, I would have no problems purchasing it (of course, the ebay/paypal buyer protection program would let me sleep well at night). I will preface that by stating the obvious.....without the card in-hand and fully examining it with a black light, authenticity cannot be 100% guaranteed.

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[iggyman]

Okay, here is a good one to analyze. Questionable seller. Yet, the front seems to pass all the tests and looks legit. But wait, what color is the back again???

Does anybody want to take a stance on authenticity with this one??? It doesn't look like different cards (the front and back look like the same card). I know I wouldn't purchase this card. Anybody???

http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-GOUDEY-91-L...mZ220590145918

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